Conversation with former abortionist now prolifer, Dr. Kathi Aultman

Pro-Life Radio is a pre-recorded program paid for by Pro-Life Radio. Preserving the sanctity of life in Florida. A loud voice for the unborn. This is Pro-Life Radio with your hosts, Vicky and Bruce Cherry. And welcome to the first episode of Pro-Life Radio in the new year, 2026. Happy New Year, everyone. Happy New Year. And may this be the year that we finally get abortion wiped from our land. We’re prayerful of that. That’s for sure. Happy New Year. I’m Bruce Cherry. My lovely wife, Vicky Cherry, sitting across from me here. We’re in the John Barrows Memorial Studio here at Salem Radio. In Orlando, Florida, and we have a special guest with us tonight. She’s been with us before, Dr. Kathi Altman, yes, and an interesting story about Dr.

Altman, and we’re going to get to her in just a bit, but we start off everything with Jeremiah 1-5. and prayer. Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I sanctified you. I ordained you a prophet to the nations. Heavenly Father, thank you for letting us see a new year. Thank you for this radio ministry to protect life, all life, because we know all life matters. And Heavenly Father, we just ask for your blessing tonight upon our guest. Upon this show and our producer Dave and his family, and our family and And all who listen to this show, we pray that we are fruitful in educating, in changing minds, and saving lives. And we thank you for this opportunity to be of service to our community.

We know that we need to protect the unborn. And God, we just pray that you let us be fruitful in doing that. And we ask all this in the name of your precious Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. All right. Dr. Altman, welcome back to the show. Here again, hey— it’s great to have you here again, and how was your Christmas? Very, very nice. granddaughter here. Um, It’s always delightful to have small children around at Christmas time. Yeah, yeah. Or anytime. Yes, anytime. But, yeah, and, you know, at the holidays, that’s where we really miss them. I think I know. Um, And talking about abortion. When there’s no small children around, Christmas just doesn’t seem like Christmas. We’ve had quite a few people on this show that in the past.

Had aborted their children and they’re now Upper 50s, low 60s, and they realize they’re alone at this point in their lives for the holidays and things like that. And it’s just—it’s—it’s— it’s heartbreaking. It really is. Hey, Dr. Allman, now let’s— because you’ve been on the show before, but it was a while back. You’re a former abortionist. And I’d like for you, if you would share with the audience, tell us about your past and what you do now. Okay. Well, it all starts with my own abortion, I think. Um, I met my future husband just prior to entering medical school. And became pregnant while we were dating. And I chose to have an abortion because I thought a pregnancy would… prevent me from going to medical school.

I wouldn’t be able to be a doctor. Um, I also didn’t want to, quote, have to get married because I was pregnant. I was afraid that we would end up with a divorce. And I was afraid of what people would think of me. Later, I realized that none of those reasons were valid. When I got to medical school, I met women who had their children. Prior to going to medical school. And that was really sad for me. My marriage ended up in divorce anyway, and I realized that my family and those people that really mattered would have supported me. And so none of my reasons were valid. Um And I think that. Having had an abortion myself. Colored my opinion about abortion and, by the time that I entered my OB-GYN residency.

I believe that the availability of abortion on demand was simply a matter of women’s rights, the right to choose. I didn’t think anyone, well, I felt women should have control over their bodies. And not be forced to bear a child that they didn’t want. I thought it was wrong to bring unwanted children into an, quote, overpopulated world where they might be neglected or abused. Now, isn’t that interesting that I think it’s okay to… Kill them, but I wouldn’t want them to be neglected or abused. But it’s okay to kill them, you know. I hear that from uh… I’ve heard that from young women very often. Um… I don’t want to have this baby. Um… well, why don’t you put it up for adoption?

Oh, I don’t want anybody else to raise my child. But you’re okay with killing it. So it doesn’t it’s a what is it you call that? An oxymoron, you know. I don’t understand it. It’s like how can you say, ‘It’s okay to kill it,’ but not let somebody else raise that child? Yeah. Well, and… And I had, I did think about, I fleetingly thought about adoption, but I didn’t really know anything about it. And I thought, well, After I had the baby, I don’t know that I could give it up. And what if somebody mean adopted the baby? And so, again, It was okay for me to kill that baby, but not. give that baby a chance at least of having a life. And a lot of people have bad lives.

That doesn’t mean they should be killed. A lot of people are poorer. That doesn’t mean they should be killed. You know, our reasoning at those times, it doesn’t make sense. Yeah. And I just… I hope that people now are more aware of how wonderful adoption is at this point. Did you know that? Well, I’m sure you know. Um, a young woman who wants to give her baby up for adoption now can actually watch videos of families that want to adopt her baby. And can choose if she wants to play a role in that baby’s life and be able to see that baby and interact with that baby, even though she’s giving the baby up for adoption. And I just think that’s so wonderful.

Had I known that there was something like that available, I think it might have. Could have changed my decision. The other thing that… I think so often men stay quiet. They don’t say anything. They, you know, they don’t feel they have a voice. I had my future husband say, ‘Listen. I know you’re scared about this, but I’ll support you. We can get through this.’ Um, I, again, I don’t think I would have done it. You know, the other part of that is, Some people think that… Stop there. I forgot what I was going to say. Can you pause there? Okay, he’s got a thumbs up. There you go. Okay. Go ahead, Kathi. And, you know, I think that’s… I think it’s sad that we take men out of the whole process.

Oh, I do too. We take them out of the whole process in a lot of ways. In raising the child and custody of the child, if there’s a divorce. And, you know, in a lot of cases. The men want to speak up. And, but they’re— they’re. They’ve been led to believe they don’t have a voice in the matter. In some cases, like in my case. And I’ve shared this on the show numerous times. My testimony is that I actively participated in the abortion of two of my own children. And the first time I was afraid. I was afraid to be a dad. I was afraid of the responsibility. I was afraid I wouldn’t be a good dad. I was very much into my career, which is a terrible, terrible reason.

And the fact that I really had been kind of led to believe I didn’t have much of a voice in the process. So I just kind of sat back and like, okay, well, all right, well, here, I’ll drive you to the clinic. Yeah. And that sort of thing. And, and so that’s, that was my, and I, and I stayed in the room with her and held her hand. And so I know the horrors that take place in the abortuaries. I mean, from, from sitting in, in the position I was sitting in. And so. And. And I suffered because of that. And so if it weren’t for God’s grace, I would still suffer from it. I mean, I know it. But. I don’t suffer from it. But men have had their voice taken from them.

And another part— this is what I was going to say earlier, and I kind of forgot what I was going to say earlier, but… criminalizing abortion. I don’t know how you feel about it, doctor. But here in the next few weeks, we’re going to be having kind of a debate on that issue: should it be criminal for the mother to kill her child, and would that stop or slow down abortion? You know. And I was going to ask Bruce: Bruce, would you know anyone that you could have been held accountable for that abortion? Would it have stopped you? Yes. Yes, it would have. It would have. I would not have been of a mindset to, okay, we’ll find somebody that will do it.

The slide, you know, for fear of, because like I mentioned at that time, my career was very important to me. I was a prominent radio personality in this town and uh, and I thought, ‘Okay, thank you.’ I just didn’t want to give up my career. And I was afraid of being a dad. I was. But you’d be afraid of going to prison or. And I would have been more afraid of going to prison. So there’s there’s quite a debate on that. There’s quite a debate on if if it should be criminalized or not. And I don’t think that we should. Yeah, I don’t want a bunch of women put in prison for that. But yet I think a lot of people would stop and think. Too. What?

Doctor, can I ask you what are your thoughts? Yeah. Well, even if you make abortion illegal. Um, one of my friends that I know. Had abortion been illegal, she never would have considered. Abortion. I think that’s true with a lot of women. If it’s legal, then it’s okay. You know, it legitimizes it. So if you make it illegal, even if it’s not punishable by incarceration. If it’s just illegal. That’s going to. Like maybe with some fines or something, yeah. All right. By maybe some fines or something like that. Is that what you’re saying? So maybe make it illegal, but put… No. Not even any fines, but just like in Florida, you can’t abort. Um, You know, once there’s a heartbeat, you can’t have an abortion. Right.

What that says is we shouldn’t, you know, it says to women. We shouldn’t be doing these. It’s not okay. To do this, whereas if you have, like, in some states, abortion with no restrictions all the way to term. Mm-hmm. Then that says. This is perfectly fine. This is acceptable. and I think I think that. The first I think that’s the first step. I’m not sure the public… is willing to accept criminalization of abortion. I don’t think they are yet, but I think, you know, it’s going to, it would be something I think that you would have to do in stages. It’d have to be. I don’t know. What are your thoughts, Bruce? I think our politicians and our churches and our church leaders have to stand up and have a backbone and a spine.

And once that takes place, and we can still spread truth, and educate people, then and only then will something like making it illegal to have an abortion will that and criminalize the people who participate then and only then will that have a chance at being in the foreground in our society, our churches and our pastors are really the beginning. Yeah. And politicians, they’re always thinking about, oh, that’s unpopular. Oh, I won’t get reelected. And sadly, politicians believe that their job is to get reelected, not to serve the people. I think there’d have to be—um, there has to be a major culture shift, and hardship. And people would have to— the majority of people would have to come to the to the record. The recognition. That. This is a person.

And and that’s. part of my story. That’s what happened to me. I realized that I was killing people. Mm-hmm. Well, we’re up against a break, so hold that thought. And when we come back, continue that because that is the difference when you realize it’s a person. That is the difference. And when we come back, we’ll tell you about what’s going on in January as January is. Write to Life Month and support the pre-born. We’ll be back in just a bit more Pro-Life Radio on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. And welcome back on a Sunday night Pro-Life Radio in the John Barrows Memorial Studio. My lovely wife, Vicki Cherry, across from me. And I’m Bruce Cherry. We have Dr. Kathi Altman on with us.

And before we get back to the doctor, don’t forget January is Sanctity of Human Life Month. 16th and 17th in Jacksonville, Florida. Quite a bit going on there. And if you are active in the pro-life movement, you need to be there. If you’re not active in the pro-life movement, get active and come join us in Jacksonville the weekend of January 16th and 17th. January 16th. will be the Florida Right to Life Gala, their 54th annual gala. Wow. Tim Tebow is the featured speaker. And if you have not heard Tim Tebow speak, you need to come. And I mean, I’m not talking about when he’s on TV and that sort of thing. I mean, when you hear him speak at a pro-life gala like this, it is moving. It’s informative.

Because as you know, the doctors tried to encourage his mother to abort him, saying that he was going to have all kinds of problems. Yeah, if being wildly successful, an incredible athlete, and a servant of God is problematic, then yeah, he’s got a lot of problems. I’m interested to hear him speaking after he has his baby, too. Yeah, he’s got a baby now. He’s got his baby, and so I’m sure he’s even more. Yeah. So the gala is on the 16th. That’s a Friday night. And then on Saturday, the 17th, Priest for Life. And they’re having a huge march there. Father Frank Pavone will be there, and Vicki and I are going to be there for that. It’s going to be a great weekend, so we urge you to make sure you attend that in Jacksonville, 16th and 17th.

The Sanctity of Human Life Month in full swing in Jacksonville, Florida. Now, back to Dr. Kathi Altman. Doctor, now you were mentioning… about your residency. So let’s get back to that. Dr. Altman is a former abortionist and now a pro-life advocate and an abolitionist. And we thank her for that. Thank you. I think I told you when I entered residency, I believe that abortion was a woman’s right. And during my program, I was trained in first trimester G &C with suction abortions. and obtained special training in second trimester D &E abortions, which were fairly new at that time. So they weren’t part of our standard residency program. At that time, a human fetus seemed no different to me than the chicken roast that I dissected in college. Mm.

And so I… didn’t see, I did not see their humanity. After I got my medical license, I moonlighted at an abortion clinic. I felt I was doing something to help women and I could make good money doing it. I enjoyed the technical challenges of the procedure and I prided myself on being excellent at what I was doing. And although I did everything in my power to make this painful procedure as seamless as possible for my patients, I never even considered what the baby was seeing. Now we know that. These babies do feel pain and the second trimester DME procedure I was talking about. The one I was doing. That’s where you dismember the baby by pulling. pulling off their arms and legs. and then crushing their… their chest and their head.

and remove them. and so you can imagine. what that baby must be. you know, going through. And I have to add this in. Because. Now… There are stories coming out. Thank you. to David Daleiden’s work. about organ harvesting. And. They don’t. of the people that are obtaining the tissue for research. They don’t want. the doctors to give to Justin. or anything to kill the baby. Before the procedure, because then the tissue isn’t fresh. And. You know, it’s just so horrific. So barbaric. And yet these things are being done and people are beginning to feel it’s okay. So, um. The only time I… ever had any qualms about during abortions was during my neonatal intensive care rotation where I realized I was trying to save babies in the NICU that were the same age as some of the babies I was aborting.

Unfortunately, I was able to rationalize things and push those feelings to the back of my mind and go on. Doctor, let me ask you, is that something that they work on in medical school to get doctors past rationalizing or get them past? feeling empathy. For babies that they might be aborting, and for patients they’re treating that are terminal. Is it something that you’re trained to just kind of absorb and just and and let it bounce off of you? I mean, not absorb, but let just to take it in and let it bounce off of you— to be technical. Is that something that the medical schools are training our doctors to do? Well, I’m not sure about now. I suspect now they are because they need people willing to do this killing.

I think when I was going through… There was no course on it. But. During the process of training. We were taught to compartmentalize because physicians have to do things that oftentimes are painful. For their patients. Um, same thing with, like, radiology tech. You know, you’ve got to put this person in a patient that you know is going to be painful after they just broke their leg. Thank you. And you have. You have to learn how to be sort of. Talk. to that and be thinking about, okay, well this is for the greater good for this person so I will accept doing something that I normally, as a normal human being, I wouldn’t be able to do because really. In some cases, it’s almost like we’re torturing our patients.

You know, we’re doing things that are even something as simple as starting an IV. Um is painful. And so I’ve learned how to do that. And I think that’s how. I was able to compartmentalize things. Um, put those thoughts on, you know, on the shelf. Hmm. I think when you, just like a police officer, I think. They also have to come do the same thing they have to see things that just would tear them up. Well, we talked about that. I have a very good friend of mine who’s a retired homicide investigator and how they dealt with seeing that. Sort of carnage all the time. And it got to the point where they, you know, might make light of it, but it was their coping mechanism.

And I’ve heard that’s made light of a lot of abortions. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I think that’s a different kind of make light of. Father Frank Buffon told us stories that just— they were blood-curdling, where they did things in the abortuaries where they were… jigsaw puzzles with the baby parts and um what was it um wish boning body bones and things like that and they’d laugh about it and that’s like whoa i mean come on the the thing i know about about police officers homicide investigators specifically they care about that victim there and they want resolution they want justice served And that’s not the case in the abortion clinics. Because they don’t look at them as human beings. But I think our society is changing. We talked about that earlier, doctor, about.

how we’re doing things to people, euthanasia, you know, and things that used to be so morally upsetting. To most people are now just becoming accepted and the norm. That’s right. Yeah. We’ll go ahead and continue. We have about three and a half minutes of this segment. Real quick. My last year in residency, I became pregnant. But I continued to do abortions without any reservations because my baby was wanted and theirs was not. As a matter of fact, if a woman, it wasn’t that I was heartless because if somebody came in with a miscarriage. I would be obsessed with them and mourn with them. But if they had a baby they didn’t want and they wanted an abortion, I didn’t see any problem with that. So. The problem was after my delivery, somehow I made that.

baby fetus connection. And when I went back to the clinic after I delivered. I realized that I could no longer kill babies just because they weren’t wanted. Mm. And you were talking about… you know, putting the the jigsaw puzzle of putting all the baby parts together again, you know, that’s something that each abortionist or doctor has to do at the end of the procedure. to make sure nothing is left. And. I think the reason that there are not more people doing abortion, because it’s very lucrative. Is that I think the normal person can only do that for so long before it finally does get to them. And, um. So the sad thing was that even though I couldn’t do them myself, it was still a staunch supporter of abortion rights, and a referred patient for abortion.

And I continued those beliefs even after I became a Christian a few years later. My views began to change, however, as I saw women in my OB-GYN practice who did extremely well after deciding to keep their unexpected pregnancies. and those who are struggling with the physical and emotional complications of abortion, which wasn’t consistent with feminists’ rhetoric I had embraced. I know you mentioned that before and you’re on— that the women that had their babies, even though they might have struggled financially or with other issues, they were doing much better than those women that you’ve seen that had had abortions. That’s right. And that is… Again, to kind of put in my rumor. Yeah. Makes you kind of start thinking, well, why are these women doing better?

And these women aren’t, did you see a lot of like, um, suicidal women depressed, maybe addiction starting because of that? Or did you see any of that with the aborted ones? Um, I had. One patient said, ‘I remember very clearly a beautiful young woman, professional woman. came in who said she was seeing a psychiatrist because The fact that she… Kills my… the fact that she killed her baby. Which so much more devastating. Thank you. Who her initial reaction to becoming pregnant, you know, the thought that she was pregnant. And she had kind of a knee-jerk reaction and just Did it. Go ahead and had an abortion without thinking about it. But then later could not deal with the fact that she killed her child.

Mmm.’ Doctor, we have a break we’re going to take, and then we’ll be right back with our next segment. We’re talking with Dr. Kathi Altman, who is a former abortionist and is now fighting for the unborn. And we’re going to be right back. More Pro-Life Radio coming to you from the John Barrows Memorial Studio at Salem Regional. And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio. Thank you. On a Sunday evening, I’m Vicki Cherry. Across from me is my handsome husband, Bruce. He loves it when I say that. I do. I give her money. But he is, he is anyway. Um, we have with us today, Dr. Kathi Altman. She was a former abortionist and she was on the show of probably about a year ago. But her story is very powerful.

I had met her at a she had spoken at BB Ford Fiona Jackson Center breakfast, and so I’m like, you need to come on this show. She agreed, and and I just love having her on. What’s just so mind-blowing is that Dr. Altman was an abortionist. And she shared in the last segment, we talked about the fact that even after she became pregnant, she stopped doing abortions, but she would still refer women out for abortions. I thought it was still okay. I thought it was still okay. But I thought what was interesting, and we ended our last segment with this, talking about… A woman that came in, that was depressed, you know, a psychiatrist, because she’d had an abortion. And I just wanted to mention, we’ve had this lady also on, Kathy McGinnis, who was a former nurse.

And she had to stop her education in nursing because she had an abortion. And then she’s seen. And they have jars of different developing fetuses. And in this one, a baby. At the age of when she aborted, and it just crushed her, and she realized what she’d done, and even though her mom had told her, ‘Oh, it’s the size of a pea; it’s nothing and her mom was also in the field, yeah, so it’s just— it’s so heart-wrenching that we are not better informed. Coming up in our next segment, Doctor has a poem that she didn’t get to read last time. Anticipating listening to that poem later too. But that’ll be down the road here. So stick with us. Doctor, let’s get back to it. Do you remember the moment?

And you mentioned earlier that after you became a Christian, there was a little… I guess. Come to Jesus moment. What was the moment like when you decided, ‘I can’t do this anymore. This is wrong.’ What was that moment? What sparked that? So, sadly, even though I became a Christian, I still believed in abortion. And it wasn’t until… um, a Christian and my— I was. uh… Embraced by Christians, and they loved me even though they knew what my philosophy was. But one day… after we had established a relationship. One of my Christian friends gave me an article comparing abortion to the Holocaust and said, ‘Would you? be willing to read this article and I said, ‘Okay.’ Well. That’s what completely changed my opinion.

My dad had been with units that liberated the first concentration camp during World War I. World War II. So I grew up with all those stories and pictures. And when I became a doctor, I could never understand how the German doctors could do what they did. But as I thought about my… own actions and behavior. I began to understand how the Nazis were able to so cool and exterminate. So many people and how physicians could justify their atrocious experiments. Just as I did not consider fetuses as human beings, they did not consider their victims as humans. And for the first time, I saw myself as a mass murderer. And it was devastating. And Ted Bundy was in the news at that time, and I thought, ‘Oh my goodness, I’ve killed a lot more people than Ted Bundy has.’ And he’s being executed.

Hmm. I asked for God’s forgiveness. And I became pro-life, and thankfully. God’s merciful and He surrounded me with loving Christian friends who helped me get the counseling and prayer that I needed to heal. And I. told God that I was going to do whatever he wanted me to do. Now, the last thing I wanted… was to be involved with abortion. Right. Not long after that, I got an email asking for volunteers to go to Washington and testify in favor of the partial birth abortion ban. Um. And partial birth abortion is. Um, they call it intact dnx; it’s where the baby has gotten, the bones of the baby have gotten to… calcified to be able to just dismember the baby. And so what they do is they caused the cervix to be much more dilated.

Go up, grab the baby, grab the baby’s feet, and pull the baby down until just the head, the head gets trapped by the cervix. And then they go in and… punctured the back of the neck that got the brain. Um, deliver the rest of the baby. So thank God that was finally. Fans. But. I got the emails and I responded. Now that didn’t work out, but I subsequently. testified. before multiple state legislatures defended the ban in state courts. and eventually did testify in Washington before a House committee. During that time, it was… really grueling because I was still practicing. But God gave me everything that I needed to keep going. Eventually that door closed. Actually, the ban was passed.

Um, but it’s funny, by the time that the ban was passed, I had given up all hope that it would ever be passed. So I tell you, don’t give up hope. And I was shocked— with it— when the ban was finally passed nationally. But, um. I went back to normal. However, in about 2013, I began to become ill. And I had to retire in 2014 for medical reasons. And after recovering, about a year and a half after recovering, I prayed that God would still use me to do something important. And the next week. I got a call. asking you to testify before the Senate committee hearing on the heartbeat bill in Washington. So what would you ask for?

Um, but I subsequently joined the Charlotte Lozier Institute as an associate scholar, and I testified at the state and national level and before an international court. And has spoken throughout the United States and overseas. God has set me on this fabulous adventure. And, um, I would tell people: You know, if you want to have the most exciting life, tell God you know, to let you do what he’s planned for you to do. And the thing is, you don’t have to figure it out. All I did was answering email. The second time, all I did was pray. Let me do something important. And God works it all out. Um, it’s just an amazing ride. Thank you. I’m so grateful that… He saved you, that He used you, and He’s still using you.

You know, when you’re talking about that. I just can’t imagine. Yeah. I think about my babies, and I think… Yeah. I, um… I almost didn’t say anything because I hope there are no little ones watching. Listening to this show and when you, you know. Probably not, but… I needed to hear that, and I’ll tell you why. As I mentioned, I had actively participated in the abortion of two of my children. One of them, I know for a fact, was considered a partial birth abortion, and I didn’t know what went into that until you shared it just now. Thank you. Thank you. And, uh, And that is why I will fight to protect the unborn until I stop breathing air. Yeah. Because I feel like I participated in such an atrocious…

Act. That. we are so blessed to be God’s children because he forgives us. Yeah. And it’s more difficult for us to forgive ourselves than for God to forgive us. Mm-hmm. And so, um, I just, I’m glad you shared that because there’s people out there that need to hear that. They need to know what goes in, what’s going on. And the reason why this has gone on for so long is that a lot of people have no clue. And they’ve been told, ‘oh, it’s just a clump of cells, or the baby can’t feel anything.’ I had comments on some Facebook things the other day of a lady that thought it was no different than eating a chicken egg. And I’m like, I think you need to maybe go to a farm.

and see the difference between a chicken egg fertilized egg and how the baby chick comes that is not a chicken egg It is a human being. And when we’re talking about taking… N. taking a force at pulling that baby down the baby down pulling off its legs and its arm and breaking its Neck. and pulling apart its head think about a baby a baby that’s out in those cute toes and fingers and i just can’t imagine you know that Uh. what we do. And we. think it’s okay and we Make it. And how did we arrive at that? I mean, how in human history did we arrive at the fact that, hey, this is okay to do? I have to say that I think media had a lot to do with it.

I know when I was growing up, there were all these sob stories of women. Dying from, you know, from bacteria. Back alley abortion. Yeah. You know, they did a… tremendous job of convincing the public that all these women were dying and, you know, they went such bad circumstances. Um I think that had a lot to do with it. And since then, you know, we’ve changed the language. We don’t talk about murder— we don’t call it murder, we call it… a termination of a pregnancy. Well, a pregnancy is not a person. It’s just a condition, you know? So you changed. the language and we make it more. much more palatable. Yeah, and I’ve always said we should have stopped the language long ago.

Like when people say, ‘my body, my choice,’ it should have been a very strong argument back, no, it’s not your body. It’s another body inside the body. Take some science lessons. Yeah, exactly. Look at an ultrasound. Well, those were things that Planned Parenthood put out. And they spent millions to make it palatable. Yeah, yeah, and that’s it. Hey, we have got our final segment coming up, and the doctor has something she did not get to share with us the last time she was on, and we want to have her share it this time. And you’ve written a poem, correct? Doctor? You can’t. Okay, so when we come back, we want to hear that poem. We’re going to take a break. This is Pro-Life Radio, and you can catch us streaming on TheAnswerOrlando.

com, and we’ll be right back on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicki Cherry. Across from me is my handsome husband, Bruce. Happy New Year, everyone. Yes. Can you believe it is 2026? It seems like 2025 just, like, shot by. I mean, like, really fast. Yes, the older you get, the faster the year goes, that’s for sure. Online with us, we have Kathi, Dr. Kathi Altman, who is a former abortionist. And now she is a strong woman of God who is trying to get out the word that these babies are human beings. And that what is happening to them in the womb, where they should be the most protected, is atrocious. All right.

So we’ve been telling you that Kathi, doctor, has a poem that she had written. About abortion and will you please read that for us? Okay. I’ll give you a little back story. I had been asked. I had gotten a call from Jeannie Mancini and asked me to speak at the… March for Life. In Washington. I think it was the year before COVID. And. I didn’t really know what, I didn’t understand the honor they were giving me. Now, I have to tell you, this is only this. was going to be only the second time that I had actually spoken. at a march or anything. And. So I said yes. And then she called back and said, would I be willing to speak at the dinner? And I said, okay, yes.

And oh, by the way. The Vice President will also be speaking. It’s okay. The Vice President of the United States? Yes. Who was vice president at that time? When President Trump was… was present the first time. Oh, so it was Pence, Mike Pence. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Mike Pence, he spoke before me. Mmm. So. Thank heavens God really helped me get past all of that so I was able to speak. Um. Anyway. I had. Was like a day or two before this I had gone to bed and God woke me up at four in the morning. And. gave me this poem. Now, I’m not a poet. And I… Never had that kind of experience before. But all of a sudden I thought, I’m never going to remember this when I wake up.

So I got out of bed. Some paper and pens. And I just started writing down what I was. Fencing. So this is it. Um, Hello, Mommy. I’m here. It’s me. I am so glad to be here. What a wonderful place. Your heartbeat soothes me as I float cozy and warm. The rhythm of your movements rocks me to sleep. I love you, mommy. You don’t know I’m here yet, and I can’t wait for you to find out. I know you’ll be excited to get as wonderful a gift as me. God picked me especially for you. I long to meet you. I’ve been tapping on your tummy, hoping you will notice me. I’m here, Mommy. It’s me. It’s getting a bit squishy in here now.

but it gives me a chance to feel my body against yours and feel your touch. Sometimes I can hear your lovely voice. I love it when you laugh and sing. MMMM! Was that chocolate you just ate? How nice it is to be here. How nice it is to be me. Why are you crying, Mommy? I thought she would be happy to know I was here. I might be inconvenienced, but it will all work out. Wait and see. God has a plan. Does it really matter how I came to be? I’m here, Mommy. It’s me. I only need to stay a little while so I can be on my own. Won’t you give me a chance? I can be a blessing if you let me. I’m yours, Mommy. I’m me.

If you really can’t keep me, let me bless someone else. Listen to your heart. Don’t kill me, Mom. I’m here. It’s me. Give me a chance to see who I can be. There’s no guarantee that I’ll be perfect. But I will be unique. I’m here, Mommy. It’s me. Perhaps I’ll be an artist or a geologist. Maybe I will find a cure for cancer or broker a piece that keeps us from war. You will never know if you kill me. Don’t listen to those who say I’m just a blob of tissue. I’m real, Mommy. I’m me. I have hopes and dreams and a will to live. It gives me the chance to see a rainbow and hear the birds sing, to taste lemonade and smell a rose.

I want to run and jump and tumble in the grass. I want you to feel the warmth of the sun on my face. I’m here, Mommy. It’s me. Let me stay just a little longer. When I’m strong enough, I will lead. I know there are others who can love me if you cannot keep me. And I will thank you for your mercy and sacrifice. Please let me live, mommy. Let me be me. I’m here, Mommy. It’s me. Trying to get through that without crying. I didn’t. I was going to say, ‘I say this all the time: we need to get a sponsor in here for tissue or something because there are times when… And it’s more frequently than not that we need tissue in the studio, and this was one of those times.

I read this at the Rose dinner, and everybody in the house was crying. I can believe that. And, you know, you touched on something in there that just yesterday, our grandson is visiting from California, and we went to see the manatees. He wanted to see manatees. He’d never seen them. And we went to see the manatees. And so we were at Blue Springs Park, State Park. And there were kids rolling down a hill. And Vicki and I both were talking about how, when we were kids, we enjoyed doing that. And, you know, there’s little things like that you forget about until you see them or you hear. That and it’s like, yeah, that’s something that a child would want to do.

I mean, I want to do it now, but if I rolled down a hill when I got to the bottom, you’d have to have medical staff to get me back up. It just, thank you for sharing that with us. Thank you. Thank you so much. Something I’d like to point out, as you think about it, you know, there’s so much negativism about motherhood and the baby in the womb. A couple times you said it’s a short time. You know, people compare it to giving somebody a kidney or being attached to somebody with, you know, life support somehow. But this is a temporary, short… term thing. You created this life and you have some responsibility. You shouldn’t just kill it because of your convenience. You know, it’s. Yeah. Short term.

It used to be, when the doctor was talking about the old days of back alley abortions and things like that. We still have back alley abortions. We still have back alley abortions. That was because of shame. That was because it was unspeakable. It was unheard of for a woman out of wedlock to be pregnant. Well, that’s no longer the case in our society. So I don’t understand where the shame comes from now, other than the fact that they don’t want someone to know that they were. I don’t look at shame anymore. You’ve talked about so many times, Bruce, our society doesn’t feel shame. We don’t feel shame. Yeah, we’ve gotten past shame. That’s part of the problem. We don’t. We are all about me. And convenience.

We’re the, what is it they used to call us? The microwave society. We want it. We want it now. We want everything convenient. We want everything comfortable for us. And abortion exists now to hide sin and for convenience. It’s not, you know, because everybody makes up the same excuses. Oh, it’s not the right time for us to have a baby. We can’t afford it. We’re in our careers. We want to buy a house first, things like that. All of them. And they’re just excuses. They’re just excuses. So we only have about three and a half minutes, doctor. So, how can people reach you? And is there anything else that you want to share with our listeners? Well, they could reach me through this Charlotte Lozier, L-O-Z-I-E-R. Institute. And, um, by calling them or…

emailing them. I don’t, unfortunately, I don’t have a website or anything. I just told God that I would… uh, you know, if he sent someone to me and was asking me to help. then I would do it. That’s what I do. Well, I have the website here for the Lozier Institute. It is LozierInstitute. org. LozierInstitute. org. Dr. Kathi Altman is with the Lozier Institute. I guess I would say that… I would hope that. maybe this would One. that People would realize that, you know, if they’ve had an abortion or even done abortions or participated in. in them. that God can forgive you. I am so thankful that God… pulled this yank me out of that. That’s it. Filthy pit. And that he did forgive me.

And actually, I had an experience where a friend was praying for me and I suddenly found myself at the feet of Jesus and he said to me, ‘Are you more important than I am? Are you? more powerful than I am. That.’ I can forgive you and you cannot forgive yourself. And I said, ‘No.’ But I think he needed me to get healed really quickly and begin to forgive myself because he had these plans. But the other is. Um, You know, let God know that you’re willing to do whatever he has for you to do. And it may or may not be in long-term pro-life. But. Thank you. To just agree to do it and then let him work out the details. You don’t have to. All I did was…

answer an email. You know, I did this the second time was pray— let me do something important— and suddenly, there I was. And it’s just been the most… wonderful adventure. Mm. Well, Doctor, we thank you. And I don’t know how to thank you enough because you came full about face. And God bless you for doing that. Thank you so much. Thank you for being with us. And I’m so glad that you are our very first guest of the new year of 2026. Absolutely. Dr. Kathi Altman, she’s with the Lozier Institute, and you can find out more about the Lozier Institute by visiting lozierinstitute.org. Thank you. Happy New Year, everyone. And Pro-Life Radio will remind you again, January is Pro-Life Month, and we invite you to join us in Jacksonville.

weekend of the 16th and 17th for the March for the Preborn and for the Florida Right to Life Gala, the 54th Gala. Tim Tebow is the featured guest speaker. We’re looking forward to that. And we have some great shows coming up. So make sure you tune in because we have a lady from Snowflake. That’s Nightlight Adoption Agency. And those are those IVF babies. Yeah. Um, we have her coming up and then it kind of a little bit debate about criminalizing. На большее. That’s going to be interesting. Oh, yes. Yes. Thank you again. Thanks to Dave in the studio there taking care of business. And thank you all for your support. And we’ll have more details on how you can. help keep this ministry on the air throughout 2026 let’s save some babies and change some hearts and minds pro-life radio coming to you from the john barrow studio on am 950 FM 94 . 9 the answer good night and happy new year god bless.