Pro-Life Radio – Martha and Mike Christlieb

Redemption Through Life: A Profound Journey of Adoption, Faith, and Family Reunion on Pro-Life Radio

Key Topics

**Rape, pregnancy, and the choice for life**: Martha Chrisley shares her story of being raped in high school, choosing to carry the pregnancy to term despite trauma and lack of support, and placing her son for adoption.

**Adoption and family reconnection**: Martha’s son Mike (now 36) recounts seeking her out via Facebook after years of curiosity about medical history; they reconnected after a three-year delay due to missed messages, building a close relationship over 10 years.

**Pro-life advocacy and generational impact**: Discussion highlights how choosing life preserved multiple generations (Mike, his wife Aaron, and their children), with emphasis on adoption as a viable alternative and the value of every life conceived in difficult circumstances.

**Faith, healing, and personal testimonies**: Integration of scripture (Jeremiah 1:5), prayer, and reflections on God’s timing, redemption of past trauma, and the hosts’ own regrets over prior abortions.

Insights and Takeaways

Choosing life, even in cases of rape, does not re-traumatize the mother but instead brings unexpected blessings, family expansion, and shared traits (e.g., interests, physical features like red hair) between biological relatives.

Adoption enables positive outcomes: it provides the child a strong start while allowing birth parents potential future relationships, as seen in Martha and Mike’s reunion and inclusion of grandchildren.

Societal arguments against life in rape cases are refuted by lived experience—Mike and Aaron emphasize that the child is innocent and deserves the chance to live, love, and contribute.

Personal stories powerfully illustrate that “every life matters,” with ripple effects across generations; support systems, faith, and open communication aid healing and reconnection.

Conclusions and Decisions

Abortion is never the right option, as it ends potential lives and causes lasting regret; adoption or parenting preserves life, offers hope, and aligns with faith-based values of sanctity.

The show affirms that God redeems difficult situations, turning pain into ministry and testimony to inspire listeners facing similar choices.

Decision reached: Continue advocating for life through radio, prayer, and sharing stories to change hearts, save unborn children, and support ministries like Pro-Life Radio; urge pregnant individuals to explore alternatives and recognize that no one has the right to disqualify ordained life.

[ 00:00:00,000 ]Pro-Life Radio is a pre-recorded program paid for by Pro-Life Radio. Preserving the sanctity of life in Florida. A loud voice for the unborn. This is Pro-Life Radio with your hosts, Vicky and Bruce Cherry. And welcome to another edition of Pro-Life Radio as we get closer and closer and closer to summer. And the America 250 birthday. Amen. How exciting. Yeah, it is exciting. And we’re very excited about tonight’s show because we have a repeat guest with us. But… Also, Well, I won’t spoil it. A special addition to the repeat guests that we have. So, of course, we start everything off with Jeremiah 1:5 and prayer. Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set you apart. I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.

[ 00:00:54,150 ]Heavenly Father, thank you for another opportunity for us to gather together on the airwaves and share truth. End. Hopefully, change some hearts and save some unborn children. God, give us the words to share. Open the hearts of those who listen. And bless all who are involved with this show, with this ministry. We pray for blessings upon our guests. And if there’s someone out there tonight that is facing the possibility of an abortion. We pray that they find answers in this show and the content that we share tonight. And that they understand that all life is precious. All life matters. And no one has a right to disqualify or to destroy a life that you have ordained to be. God, we ask for this. And pray to you in the name of your precious Son, Jesus Christ.

[ 00:01:47,440 ]Amen. Amen. All right. Welcome to the show. We’ve got Martha Chrisley back with us on the show. Martha, how are you doing? I’m doing well. Good, good, good. Yeah, thank you. For those of you who don’t remember, or maybe you didn’t hear the show that Martha was on, they need to go back and listen because it was powerful. They do. A very powerful show. But Martha had a child. Um, A long time ago, and… She chose life. And put that child up for adoption. And. Yep. Martha, I’ll let you finish the rest of that story. Um, Well, just a quick recap. Kind of a bad situation for me. It was a person I knew, but it was… He raped me. And then I… found out I was pregnant.

[ 00:02:41,850 ]But I didn’t. I was still in high school, didn’t have a high school diploma, and I had no support system. And all I could offer my son or my baby was love. And I just really wanted him to have. His best first chance. And I knew that I couldn’t give it to him, so I found a family. And gave him to this family. And so tonight. That son is with us. On the show. Now, you guys. Isn’t that just how amazing how God works this out? It is. It is. You’ve had to do something tough, tough decision. Now… Mike, are you there? Yeah, I’m here. Okay. Mike was a little nervous about being on the show tonight.

[ 00:03:33,310 ]I explained to him and Vicky explained to him that it’s really like we’re all sitting at the kitchen table just kind of having a conversation. Which one of the two of you sought the other one out? I did. You sought your mom out. I did. Okay. Okay. And how did you do that? You know, were you thinking for a long time that you wanted to know? You know, tell us more about that. Um, Well, I’m kind of your average guy. I didn’t really think a lot. Um, It kind of just, you know, the older I got, you know, I was in my 20s. And, uh, Thank you. I just, you know, I’m… Every time I go to the doctor’s office, it’s… What’s your family history like? I don’t know.

[ 00:04:25,350 ]Mm-hmm. Not blood related to anybody. Mm-hmm. Uh… you know, my, Meh. My mom who raised me. um, new who to reach out to. reached out to her. reached out to Martha on Facebook. Because. My mom, I guess, still… Kept up with her. Enough to… know where she was or know where to find her on Facebook. So. I just sent her a message. Funny thing. It took three years for her to message me back. Oh, wow. Yeah. Martha, what took so long? I have to ask that question. You’re putting her on the spot, Bruce. I’m sure Mike has asked that question. He said it was… It was terrible, honestly, because… Do you know how if someone is not your friend on Facebook and they send you a message and it goes into a different folder?

[ 00:05:30,010 ]I didn’t know that, and I missed that folder for three years. And one morning I got, I was up and… saw a message that I was unfamiliar with and I opened it. And when I did, a slew of messages came up. And one was from… my son’s mother. And I… I was shocked. And when I read it, and it was sweet. She thanked me for… you know. her son and told me what he wanted. And I said, of course. But then, when I looked up at the date, I had pretty much a heart attack. not realizing that had been three years, and I was devastated, honestly. I cried all day. And because, when I messaged her back, she didn’t answer me right away. It took her all day.

[ 00:06:24,570 ]message, and I had to go to work, and I thought, he must think I want nothing to do with him. He must think that, you know, I just don’t want anything. And that was further from the truth. And then… I, on my way home, I was praying, Lord, just give me, just tell me what to say. And I messaged mom one more time and within 30 seconds. She messaged me back and said, ‘I’m just waiting for him to get home and letting him know what is happening.’ Wow. You know, I can see how that could happen. I’ve had that experience with the messenger thing too. It’s like they get hidden and you don’t, yeah. Wow. I’ve had that happen. In fact, it was in relation to somebody that I had known.

[ 00:07:10,210 ]In college that was… reaching out to say goodbye. And they were about to, I guess, at the time they were about to pass away. And by the time I got the message, they had. Well, thank God that did not happen to Martha. Yeah, really. That would have been… You know, and God has his great timings. He does. He does. Mike, you were going to say something. Well, I just wanted to say I didn’t hold it against her. I didn’t think anything of it. You know, people have their lives. They need to live whichever way they need to live, I reckon. I didn’t hold it against her. I have. not held anything against anybody about any of this. Now, Mike, I heard you call her Martha.

[ 00:07:56,000 ]Is it weird for you to call her Martha? Or, I mean, do you when you guys are talking just each other together over the phone or because I know you guys have seen each other now in person at least a couple of times. Do you? Cheers. Cheers. Do you ever have the impulse to call her mom or? Yeah. No, not generally. I don’t know how to explain it, really. Yeah. And that’s, you know, that is a great… thing about adoption. Mm-hmm. You know that your mom that raised you, is your mom, you know? But it’s so wonderful for Martha that she can share in. Her son’s life. And her grandchildren’s life. Yeah. And, you know, it just, it’s amazing. And the grandkids now have extra grandparents. Yeah.

[ 00:08:48,790 ]So there’s extra spoiling going on, I’m sure. More or less, yeah. Yeah. I’ve got a stepmom who fills the role. Quite perfectly as a grandparent here. And what I was curious earlier, I was going to ask. How old were you? When you found out you were adopted, or did you always know? Eight. Yeah. And what were your thoughts then? Were you like, ‘Oh, that’s… How do you do that?’ I don’t even remember how the conversation came up. I do remember I was in my mom’s car. And she told me, for some reason, I don’t know. Mm-hmm. Not like I had any suspicions over it. Thank you. As far as I can tell, she randomly told me. I don’t remember the whole thing. Okay. Did it bother you at all?

[ 00:09:38,940 ]I mean, do you remember how you felt when you found out? You’re cutting out. I’m cutting out. Well, you’re not cutting out, but it’s like you’re talking through a sponge. All right. Oh, that’s my fault. Oh. That’s your fault. Yeah, that was my fault. Sorry. Okay. All right. I’ll ask that question again. So when you found out, did it? Did you feel different? Did you feel funny about it? Or, I mean, did it bother you? That you were adopted? No. I know somebody told us the same adoption story and they said, Well, I was chosen. You know, so. Yeah. Yeah, they picked me. They’re other brothers and sisters. Yeah. But I didn’t feel any particular way, if I remember right. I mean, it’s just… Just happenstance, everything. You know, for a reason.

[ 00:10:35,420 ]And what age were you when you decided you wanted to try to contact her? I think, let’s see, so I was… About 25. I don’t know. Lynn. When we got in contact. 0. 4, 0. 5, something like that. Okay. Okay. And was there something going on? I guess it was about 22, 23, somewhere around that. And do you know why you wanted to? I mean, was there some reason? Did something happen? I guess you said the medical part you were. Kind of wanting to… Primarily the medical part. I mean, like, there’s other stuff to it, too. I will say, I didn’t have any real intention of having, like, relationship, you know, like I just wanted medical advice or knowledge mainly. Mm-hmm. And then we just like uncannily. Hit it off.

[ 00:11:26,170 ]I don’t think ‘uncannily’ is a word, but… It’s okay. You can make it up along the way. That’s fine. That’s fine. But when we hit it off, like, it was, I mean, it was like it was ordained to be. Amen. I mean, we had common interests. interest that I don’t have with most other people. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Okay. Martha, any thoughts on any of what we’ve been talking about? So many thoughts. So. I’m sorry. It will be in August— 10 years since we first started talking to each other. Oh, wow. So I was right. You’re right. Because I turned 36 this month. Happy birthday. Yeah. Obrigado. And so much has changed since then. You know, we’ve had some ups and downs just trying to figure out what life is supposed to be like in reunion.

[ 00:12:29,950 ]And stuff. And he’s right. It’s uncanny that how much we actually have in common and the things that we like or don’t like. And I think in my first interview, I even said— down to the pizza toppings that we like on our pizza. Oh, wow. Yeah, not ham and pineapple. But pepperoni. Pepperoni. A— Okay. You guys got to stop that because I’m sitting here, I’m looking in the next studio to Pete, our engineer, and he’s got the same thought I have. Hey, that sounds pretty good. I’m getting kind of hungry. And we might have to try that tonight. Yeah, no joke. Hey, we’re up against a hard break. Oh, there you go. We’re up against a hard break. break here, so we’re going to take a break, and we’re going to come right back in just a bit.

[ 00:13:15,980 ]It’s Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. We’re talking with Martha Chrislieb and her, what was her long-lost son? That she had put up for adoption. They now have reconnected and have a great relationship. We’re going to hear more about that coming up. If you like this show, you like this ministry, and you want to help keep us on the air, we have details. Coming up on how you can do that with your donation and your contribution. Thank you so much. It’s Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900 County Road.

[ 00:14:10,160 ]Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax deductible. Thank you. And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio. On a Sunday evening, I’m Vicky Cherry, and across from me is my… Very. Has been brewed. You’re going to have to stop that. People are going to start… Like. Saying I’m paying you to say that. And I am. But, you know, that’s, you know. Anyway, welcome back to the show. We’re on with Martha Chrisley and her son, Mike. They reconnected, or they, well, I guess you would say they reconnected because Martha gave birth to him. We now know 36 years ago and put him up for adoption. He was the product of. um, I, I don’t like to put it—I’m not going to put it that way. Yep.

[ 00:14:57,510 ]She was, she was attacked. And Mike was born, and she put him up for adoption. Now they’ve reconnected. So, Martha, we had asked you, and you said you had several thoughts we want to pick up right there. Share those with us. Before you start, Martha, I did want to say— you think about abortion and you think about that ending of that family line. You know? If you wouldn’t have put him up for adoption, you wouldn’t have those precious grandkids, you know. You wouldn’t have him and you wouldn’t have on and on and on. Generations are going to come from that. And people have been on the show before and talked about it. It’s four lives so far. That have been saved from that decision. Amen. And those four lives are going to most likely grow up.

[ 00:15:45,189 ]Multiply. Yeah, they’re going to multiply. So, yeah. Yeah. All right, Martha. Yeah, I was just saying, you know, I… I’m blessed by the changes that have happened. We’ve had, we’re just navigating for a long time on how this would work and stuff. And I’m blessed that he even wants to be part of his life and his children’s life. I’ve met all three of his boys now. Mm-hmm. And I’m just… Okay. You know, just bless God. Redeemed that decision. That I never thought would even be possible. Um, And, you know, and I do find it funny how Um… genes passed on heavily into that family because he… Mike is very much like me in so many ways. I think I hear one of the grandkids in the background.

[ 00:16:44,240 ]Yeah, we went to a baseball game the other day. Oh. They wanted the little wood. Souvenir bat. Oh, okay. Bye. But… My youngest picked up one and was just smashing it on the rug and then got to the hardwood and just, wow. You know, and it’s so precious. My wife turned around with this look on her face like, ‘No, don’t do that,’ and then grabbed it from him and took him out of the room before he started crying. Oh, my goodness. How old is he? Two. Two. Yeah. That’s a wonderful age. And to just know that that was saved. So far, he’s kept his red hair. Oh, there you go. There you go. Wait a minute. Martha, you have red hair. I know. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

[ 00:17:31,490 ]I know, and he had red hair when he was born. When I reconnected with her, I have a half-sister, you know? Mm-hmm. And she has her red hair and I don’t. And I was very irritated by that. Yeah, my daughter has all red hair. But. Peace. had red tendencies when he was born. And it’s just been passed on. That’s very cool. I mean, mine will turn red in the sunlight out on the beach or something. Mmm. Wow. One of my boys has kept their red hair so far. To the age of two. The other one, his has turned like mine did. My oldest. Mm-hmm. Wow. Sorry, I could talk about my kids all day. And isn’t that just when you really sit and think about the… What would have changed?

[ 00:18:30,610 ]You know? That none of that would have happened. It’s just amazing to me that people take it so lightly. Martha, the first time that you and Mike talked, were you worried that he was going to be angry with you? Oh, absolutely. Especially after being three years. We were only talking through text messages. So he messaged that day that his mom finally… called, texted me back and said, ‘Yes, I’m just waiting.’ It was midnight that night when he… messaged me for the first time. And I was nervous. I will say I was nervous. We just started talking and just… Ask questions and it was very lighthearted for a while. Like, it was just, we wanted to just get to know each other. And that’s what happened for a week.

[ 00:19:23,430 ]And then… there was a time when he asked me the more serious questions. Okay. Which were hard to answer. Hmm. Mike, what were you thinking about this time? When? Right now? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. When she was talking to you about, and then you started asking the hard questions. Was it hard to ask her? What were your thoughts? It wasn’t hard to ask the question. It was difficult to come up with the hard questions to ask. Mmm. I mean, more or less. I mean, there’s an obvious one, like, why, you know? Mm-hmm. Bye. But you know, uh, Yeah, I mean… You know, it’s just, you know, one thing led to another thing, and you ask more and more questions. Um, say that I think is a bit of a stretch.

[ 00:20:21,750 ]I get the impression, and Martha, correct me if I’m wrong, but I get the impression that Mike’s a real easy guy to talk to. He is, you know, he has a… a lot to say and he has a lot of, um, things that he’s interested in. And he’s also very laid back. And he’s funny. Thanks. He makes me laugh all the time. Oh. There you go. There you go. Wow. So. Mike, were you nervous the first time you guys actually spoke on the phone? Oh, yeah. I mean, because we, like, it had gotten so good on text message, you know, like enjoyable, you know. Mm-hmm. I did. Just give me a second. Thank you. Thank you. The grand, the grand. Yeah. There you go. And they’re all grandsons, but, um, they’re all bullies.

[ 00:21:22,270 ]I am all that is man. There is no woman. Mmm. They asked me if I was ever going to have a girl. I was like, nope, I’m over this, man. Okay, okay. What was it? Were you nervous the first time you and Martha… talked on the phone. Yeah, absolutely. Like, it was good, and I didn’t, you know, it’s kind of like that, like, every time, like, you… you elevate or upgrade a relationship. You know, there’s that. You know, if it goes awry, can we go back? You know, it’s going to ruin going back the ability. Um, Yeah, I mean, yeah, it went grand. I mean, it went great. But yeah, I wouldn’t know. Martha, anything to add? Yeah, I remember when he asked me if he could call me for the first time.

[ 00:22:23,700 ]I was at my dining room table, and I was doing homework because I was a student at the time. And he was like, ‘Can I call you?’ And I just pushed my homework aside. And I was like, ‘Yes.’ You can call me right now. And I remember distinctly the first time I heard his voice. Um. I think we were both really nervous the first time we met each other face-to-face. I don’t know. That was a baseball game. We went to a baseball game, but it was at the hotel room when we first saw each other. Yeah, it was at the hotel room. Mike, I’m picking up that you’re a baseball fan. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. I am. Who’s your team? Atlanta Braves. Atlanta Braves. Okay. All right.

[ 00:23:05,670 ]Okay, nice. Me and a buddy had planned to go down to… um see the Atlanta Braves play at their new stadium. It was their inaugural season at the SunTrust Stadium. Mm-hmm. And I let her know in advance we were going. And then she was like, oh, I guess I guess in talking about it, like, hey, you know what? We could meet. All right. We went to the aquarium and then to the ball game. Yep. In Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. And Elena. And it’s funny because this is the… comedian that he is, he told me, he goes, ‘I know you’re going to cry, but you’re not allowed to cry in public.’ That’s what he said to me. And I’m like, ‘Okay.’ And I… I did okay until…

[ 00:23:58,130 ]in the middle of the baseball game because my daughter, his half-sister, also came with me to meet him. And I was okay until the first moment I suddenly realized that. She was on my right-hand side, and he was on my left-hand side. And I had both of them. For the very first time. Wow. Sitting in the middle of the baseball game with tears. Screaming down my face. Yeah. And my buddy was there, you know, you like. Mike, did you see her crying at that time? No, I was watching the game. Go Braves. They won that match. Pretty good. Oh, okay. Thank you. Now, was that the first time that your daughter had actually talked with all three of you had talked? Or had she also talked on the phone before that?

[ 00:24:53,100 ]No, I think that was about our time. Yeah, I don’t think I’d talk to her before. Mmm. That. And did you know she was coming? Yeah, yeah. It didn’t bother me. Wow. It did bother me a little bit because my buddy was there and he was single and I didn’t want something weird to happen with that. Yeah. That might be a, yeah. Well, well, Martha, how old is your daughter? She’s 31. She’s five years younger than he is. But I mean… But I mean, was she single at the time? No. Oh, okay. All right. No, she was not. She was married. Okay. All right. So yeah. So, okay. So your, your concern was justified. Okay. I get that. I mean, it’s my buddy. I know how he can be.

[ 00:25:45,640 ]Ah, yeah, yeah. We’ve all got friends like that. I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Hey, we’ve got another break coming up once because he stole a girl from me out from under me. Oh, my goodness. Three years without talking. Oh, my God. We’ve got another break coming up. Oh, this is just an incredible show tonight. It is. Martha Chris-Leib and her long-lost son, Mike, have reconnected, and they’re here with us on the phone. And Pro-Life Radio will be right back. We’re streaming on TheAnswerOrlando. com, and you’re listening to AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc.

[ 00:26:36,700 ]and mail it to 13900 County Road 455, Unit 107-334, Claremont, Florida 34711. Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you. And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. Bruce Cherry, across from me, my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry. Thank you. She pays me to say that with oatmeal raisin cookies, which you’re overdue. I’m just saying. I know. Okay. Just saying. And we’ve got Martha Chrisley Bond with us. Martha’s been on the show a couple of times before and shared her story. She was raped when she was a teenager and became pregnant and put the baby up for adoption and they reconnected. Many years later, and, um, Her son, Mike, is with us right now.

[ 00:27:36,800 ]And Martha, can I ask, going back to that time, and I don’t want you to relive that agony, but I also want to, what were you thinking when you found out you were pregnant? Were you thinking about having an abortion or did that thought never cross your mind? No, abortion was never an option. Amen. Um, but I grew up… a Christian. in the church, and I knew… that that was just not the answer. Um, If I had… The resources and the… support system. I… most likely would have kept him. if at all possible. But I did not. I didn’t. I am. I was. you know, traumatized and I hadn’t healed. And I didn’t have a support system at all. And the only thing that I could think of was…

[ 00:28:30,720 ]find him a family. Now, Martha, let me ask you this question, and you probably have shared this with us in the past, and I’m just drawing a blank on it. Did your parents know that you had been attacked? Um, My dad wasn’t in my life at the time, and my mom… My mom wasn’t healthy, and she assumed… things that were not true. It wasn’t until much later that she realized what had happened. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. And you’re reminding me now. The last time you were on the show. So, well, thank you for. I mean, I’m thanking you. Vicky thanks you. Mike really thanks you for choosing life. Yeah, and my three boys and my wife. Yeah, absolutely. So. And all the people you’ve touched. You know, all the people you’ve touched.

[ 00:29:31,550 ]It’s so weird to think it’s almost like a movie. If you really think about it, you know, that other life, if you weren’t there, you know. What kind of changes would the world have… had, you know, it, every life matters, you know, and all life matters. So it’s. It’s just amazing. If there’s someone listening to this show tonight. That is pregnant. And has been thinking about abortion. I urge you, I beg you. There’s other options. There’s other options. I just want to point out, as the baby who had been born, I love that I live. Amen. Yeah. You know, I mean, uh… about that I just want to point out, like, you know, a lot of people, I hear a lot of people saying that that.

[ 00:30:23,910 ]that you know, offspring of attacks. victim. don’t deserve to live. Right. you know, That’s just not the truth of it. I mean, You should never, you know. My three boys get a chance to live. and they get a chance to do all the cool things in life. I do. Like, you know, I mean. Not only have I made a difference in making them with my wife, obviously. But my wife had three kids. from our four kids from previous marriage. You know, in different ways, they’re impacted by influence that I’ve given them, my wife says. Mm-hmm. Wow, you guys have seven kids? Yeah. Yes, yes, definitely. I just caught that. It’s like the Brady Bunch. It’s more like the Clampers, I think. Oh my. Oh my goodness. Wow.

[ 00:31:27,430 ]The Brady Bucks are more of like a California. And you guys are not California-style family, I can tell. Yeah, I get it. I get it. That’s okay. Yeah, my family that I’m adopted into on my dad’s side is from the mountains. Okay. Like coal miners and stuff. Okay, okay. That’s fine. We’re kind of more like the Clampers. That’s a funny analogy. Yeah. Well, the Clampetts didn’t have seven kids either, so, you know. For anybody out there that doesn’t know who the Clampetts are. Yeah, that’s true. For anybody out there who doesn’t know who the Clampetts are, just Google Beverly Hillbillies. There you go. That’s a great show. If you don’t know classic TV, you ought not be watching TV. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. This new stuff ain’t worth nothing.

[ 00:32:20,240 ]The old stuff is where the values are. Oh, my goodness. We’ve got to get this guy into town. We need to visit with Mike. That’s for sure. Oh, my goodness. So, okay, so… So, Martha, you started to say something there. Yes. Yeah. I just wanted to go back to what he was saying that… Um, and most people will also say that out of… Trauma. That having that baby will re-traumatize you. Um, I don’t, I don’t believe that. I think that. What happened had nothing to do with that child. Ken? Mike, because he… He is a blessing in this world. At this point, you know, as he’s a blessing in this world, and that I was not re-traumatized. By giving birth to him. Now, with his birth…

[ 00:33:13,020 ]I was thrilled. No, it was hard. But… Um, But why would we punish him because of something somebody else did? Right. Exactly. Why would you? Well, it’s not justified that… That like, if you were to in somebody else’s life or something somebody else did to you, when you do that, you are no longer the victim. You are the… the assailant in your own right. Mm-hmm. Totally agree. I mean, that might be a harsh way of looking at it. No, I agree. No, I agree. Now, earlier we had a question. Martha. I wanted to know, what did your daughter think about all this? And when did she know? And just tell us that side of it. Mm-hmm. So I told her when she was about eight or nine.

[ 00:34:07,890 ]That she had a brother out there. It was funny, at eight years old, she’s telling everybody, I have a big brother. And was super proud, you know. Kind of funny they were both eight. Life went on. Huh? It was kind of funny. They’re both eight. They both found out at eight years old. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then she was an only child forever. And then when… He did come back into my life. She was a bit jealous for a little bit. In fact, on the… Drive up to Atlanta. When I told her I was going, she goes, ‘I’m going with you because I want to meet him.’ We had one of the coolest conversations we’ve had. Because she said to me… She goes, ‘I know it’s dumb, Mom, but I am jealous.

[ 00:35:00,310 ]That I didn’t want somebody else to have another piece of your heart.’ And. I said to her, ‘You had to know that. He already had a piece of my heart.’ And. You know, my heart’s beating out for all of them. It was mine in the first place. Oh, some sibling row will be leaving the library. Oh, my goodness. Okay, we’re going to have to have Martha and Mike back. And Martha, what’s your daughter’s name? Hannah. Hannah. That’ll be a show in the future. Martha, Mike, and Hannah. There we go. Yeah. But now she just takes it. I don’t. I don’t. Y’all don’t talk much, but, you know, we really don’t. He’s there. Yes. I mean, I’ve got a year for it. Mike, do you have that big brother gene that, you know, like…

[ 00:35:54,020 ]Hannah’s husband better not mess up or you’ll have to drive down to Florida and have a talking with him. Well, I mean, as long as he doesn’t act like a tool bag. Okay. So he does. He has that big brother gene. He’s got that big brother gene. Well, and the competition’s there, like the brother-sister sibling. There you go. Hit it. Okay. All right. Wow. I haven’t met him, but, you know. Mm-hmm. Você. Okay. All right. Wow. I have siblings. And, you know. Link. The family you were adopted into, you have siblings? I do. And, you know. I mean, One of them’s married off and… He’s an all right filler. Yeah. Okay. All right. The guy she was with before, he was an idiot, but… Oh my goodness.

[ 00:36:52,780 ]So, well, the guy she was with before probably won’t hear this show. Yeah. Or he wouldn’t know who he was. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So. So, Mike, what would you say to… I think I know, but what would you say to someone who’s a boyfriend and girlfriend, a husband and wife, two people that find themselves pregnant unexpectedly and they’re thinking about… aborting the child. Well. Don’t. Thank you. Don’t. Don’t think that. Um. Thank you. You know… You don’t pick your time. God picks your time. You know? Mm-hmm. Thank you. If you find yourself… in a position you probably shouldn’t be in because you did something you shouldn’t have done in the first place. You know, it’s too late now. You already have. What’s coming to you, and that’s a child.

[ 00:37:51,980 ]And. You know, it’s going to be a lot better. Then, if you’re regretting. And in the end, having gotten an abortion. Thank you. You know, me and my wife may not have done the right steps in the right order. And I didn’t feel like I deserved my first son. Because we hadn’t gotten married yet. That’s my cross to bear, but… Thank you. My son, my first son, him and I are like… I don’t know. Peanut butter and jelly. Two peas in a pod. Okay. Like, he is me, like, reincarnated. Mmm. You know, not that reincarnation is real. I get what you’re saying. I get what you’re saying. I’m glad you added that, though. I get it. I get it. But, you know…

[ 00:38:46,100 ]I did go through that moment of, I don’t deserve this because… you know, this came out. From… from, you know, a wrong beginning. Outside of wedlock. Yeah. And, uh, It’s been the best thing in my life. I may not have been ready for it. I mean, I was 30. I should have been ready for it. Uh-huh. I don’t know if anybody ever is. Yeah, you’re never ready for it. We’re up against that. And that’s the thing, you’re never ready. No, you aren’t. And that’s a good point to get back at the next break. So we are on break. We have to take a break now, but we’ll come back, talk more a little bit about that. All right, Pro-Life Radio on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer.

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[ 00:40:33,930 ]I just wanted to say that that was the best piece of advice that I got when I got pregnant at 17. Thank you. Unexpectedly. But my mom gave me was that… It’s never going to be the right time. You’re never ready. You know, there is no such thing as a perfect time. Even when you are ready, you’re still not ready. So she said, you know, it’s… If you’re thinking about not having this kid because it’s bad timing, like, just get that out of your head. Like, that’s not. That’s not something to think about. Like, and that was like the best piece of advice she gave me. Because I ended up keeping. mine and I got married, I mean, I was not attacked. It was a consensual thing.

[ 00:41:17,050 ]It was just… We were young, we were kids, and… We were dumb, as young kids do, and then you end up pregnant, and then… We weren’t married. We were pretty dumb. You know, the dumbness sometimes doesn’t stop because you’re not as young as you used to be. Right. Yeah. I’m dumb all the time. Trust me. Yeah, abortion is never the right option, you know, whether it be… Keeping the baby or giving the baby up for adoption, you know, abortion is never the answer. It just causes more pain, more heartache. I regret all the things. Thank you. You know, it’s just… It’s never the right answer. Okay. Oh, I agree with that wholeheartedly. That’s for sure.

[ 00:42:06,110 ]And thank you for coming on as the wife of the man and the father of his children that wouldn’t be here. Think about that, people. Wife of the man who is the father of the children. Okay, yeah. You know, if Martha had chosen an abortion, you wouldn’t have a husband right now. You wouldn’t have his. His children. You know, it’s just… People don’t think of that. Planned Parenthood doesn’t prepare them. Go ahead. That’s always my ‘go to’ when people start talking about abortion and especially, you know, they use that argument that, you know, it should be OK, you know, in rape. And I, you know, I’m like, OK, well. You know, my husband, so he shouldn’t be able to live. He shouldn’t be my husband.

[ 00:42:50,940 ]I shouldn’t have been able to have kids with him. Because of, you know, how he was conceived. Like, he doesn’t deserve to live. She’s very passionate about it. You think? It’s the best thing that’s ever happened to me. Wow. Aaron, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing that. Are you tearing up? Yes, she is. Oh, my goodness. She wouldn’t be the only one. Oh, my goodness. Martha’s crying. Give me some tissue. Oh, my gosh. Let me say, I love Aaron so much. And she is so good for him. So real quick, I mean, I don’t know if that… it’s appropriate, but I probably… What did she see you in her name? My name’s not Mike. I just felt bad about it.

[ 00:43:52,020 ]Okay. Yes. Thank you. It’s complicated. All right. Hey. I’m fine with just calling you Mike on this show. Whatever you want. Whatever you want. Well, I just felt bad for a minute there. No, don’t feel bad at all. There is no shame in anything that has gone on there. None. No shame. That the… And you do have a right to your privacy. So we appreciate you coming on the show and sharing with us. And so. You can be Mike from here on out or whatever you want to do. Save it for the next show. Jed Plampett. Jed Clampett, yeah. Yeah, that’s fun. That’s fine. The reason why he went with Mike for this show is because if I would have kept him, he would have been Michael. Ah, okay.

[ 00:44:51,710 ]Oh, that’s awesome. It was just an homage to that as a pseudonym. Okay. Kind of. Okay. Well, good. You know, I don’t know if our listeners can hear. The love. The eternity is changed because of one decision. I mean, it’s… People, if you have somebody in your life that’s thinking about an abortion, talk to them about this story, you know. Mike? Aaron, whoever, Mr. Jack Clampett wouldn’t be here. You know, it’s, it’s just, I… Bruce, go ahead. I just don’t have words. Now Vicky’s tearing up. We need tissue. Oh, my goodness. You know. I just, I commend you, Martha, on the decision you made. And had I been a stronger man. Some 40 years ago, because something that Mike and Aaron don’t know about me, Martha does, and many of the listeners out there do.

[ 00:45:54,100 ]40 years ago, I was so into my own thing, into my career. I was a radio DJ, and I was… love and life and a woman that I eventually wound up marrying. I got pregnant. And. We aborted. that baby. And. That is something that haunted me for a long time. And it’s still, I won’t say it haunts me anymore because I’ve asked for God’s forgiveness and I believe I’ve received it. and I’ve repented, and I fight tirelessly now to protect the unborn. Sadly, that wasn’t the only time that we did that because… Then again, later on, we were married, had two healthy sons God blessed us with. And then she got pregnant again and decided she didn’t want to be pregnant a third time. Mm-hmm. She aborted the baby.

[ 00:46:46,680 ]Pretty much without my consent. But I also didn’t put up as big a fight as I should have. I should have said, ‘No, we need to keep this baby.’ God blessed us with two other children. You know, And she had always wanted a girl. And I thought, ‘Maybe this is the girl.’ Because the other two were boys. Right. But we, um, But. We didn’t. But look at you now. You are fighting hard for family. Amen. And God does use our misery for our ministry. He does. He allows us to go through things. He doesn’t cause it, but he allows it. Mm-hmm. It gives you the conviction. You know that conviction came after… First off, I knew The second. We did the first abortion. I knew it was wrong.

[ 00:47:40,390 ]I could feel it in my soul that we had done something really horrible. And I was in the room during the procedure. And it was horrible. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And. And then I was not in the room. When we did the second one. Like a coward, I just, I couldn’t. I couldn’t be in there. I wasn’t. Um, but that That cowardice. Um, stuck with me because I should have fought harder to protect my children. And. I didn’t. And I should have been in there fighting. Up until I couldn’t fight anymore or they would have removed me. To protect that. That other baby. So now… I fight to protect babies I don’t even know. Right. You know, and Mike, I want to share something with you. We have a…

[ 00:48:33,570 ]And we’re getting short on time, so I’m going to make this quick. We have a very close friend, two close friends, the minister who married us and his wife. They’ve been married 60 years? I don’t know. Almost 60 years. Bye. She was the product of rape. And her mother at 13 years old. The police, her relatives, school counselor, their doctor all tried to convince her to abort the baby. And this was 1940 something. And she didn’t even know what an abortion was. And when she figured it out, she’s like, ‘You’re saying you want me to kill this baby?’ It’s not this baby’s fault. Yeah. At 13 years old, she knew that. With all that influence. She knew that. And she went ahead. They shipped her off to a young girl’s home.

[ 00:49:20,050 ]She had the baby. Put the baby up for adoption. Once she had the baby, she could come back home and she did. And. Now… Thank you. That. That woman that was a baby that was put up for adoption. Is a pastor’s wife, has been a pastor’s wife for… And she has an adopted son. And she has adopted a son. And they got to connect. She got to connect with her mom. Before her mom passed, her mom lived to be 92 or something of that nature. Yeah. So it just, it. Thank you. Adoption. Adoption is out there. It’s real. It’s a real option. For people. And so. I urge you, if anyone… Well, it’s the only alternative option. Mm-hmm. Well, the other alternative is to…

[ 00:50:03,270 ]That saves your own soul, too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the other alternative is keep the baby. And there is a third alternative. Don’t get yourself in that situation. Yeah. I mean, that’s why I say, like, you know, the alternative to… The only alternative to keeping the child is to… give it up for adoption. I mean, That’s a clear conscience. Yeah. Absolutely. I go to sleep at night. With a smile on my face. You know, I believe that. I do believe that. I mean, that’s… Guys, we’re down to the last minute. Of the show. Mike, is there anything else you’d like to share? You know, All right. Just, just don’t like, you know, just, just— Give it a chance. Give that child a chance. They’re worth it.

[ 00:50:59,060 ]To grow up and have a family. You never know what comes out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Martha. I’m just blessed. I’m blessed that… God redeemed. That situation 36 years ago. Almost 37, and that’s… Being able to have… giving him up for adoption still gave me hope that one day… I would have a relationship with him. And now you do. And now I do. And it seems like a great relationship too. It is. Okay. It is. Wow. We might have to go have some Pepperonian. Pineapple pizza. Yeah, I think that, yeah, maybe so. And watch Beverly Hillbillies. Yeah, there you go. For more recipes, I have more concoctions. Oh, my goodness. There you go. Okay. Well, that’s going to do it for this week’s edition of Pro-Life Radio.

[ 00:52:02,680 ]Mike, thank you. Aaron, thank you. Martha, thank you so much. And I’d like to thank Pete, our engineer. I’d like to thank my lovely wife, Vicky. And I’d like to thank all the listeners out there. Thank you for joining us tonight. We’ll see you again next week. Her Life Radio. On AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com slash orlandoproliferadio or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. Mail it to 13900 County Road 455, Unit 107-334, Claremont, Florida 34711. Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you.