Bryan Kemper Stand True Pro Life Youth Outreach of Priests for Life

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Bruce Cherry: Radio with your hosts, Vicky and Bruce Cherry, and welcome to Pro-Life Radio. Obviously I am not Vicky. We, we do know what our genders are here. Amen. There you go. I’m Bruce Cherry, my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry, across from me.

Bruce Cherry: Welcome to another edition of Pro-Life Radio. Last week you might have, uh, noticed that we, we had a replay of abortion in the water with, uh, John Steinberger. Very important show we wanted to replay for you, but also because we had took, we had taken a little time off and, uh, went to check a, a, a location off of my bucket list.

Vicky Cherry: Yes, Bruce has a bucket list.

Bruce Cherry: I have a bucket list and we went to, uh, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania to the Battlefield. So it

Vicky Cherry: was pretty amazing.

Bruce Cherry: It was. I highly recommend that if you are, if you have not been, go, if you have been, go again. ’cause we will, that’s for sure. Hey, we’ve got a [00:01:00] great guest with us today.

Bruce Cherry: Uh, Brian Kemper, who is the director of Stand True, a pro-life organization, stand True Rock for life. Is the organization, but he is also the activism and youth director for Priest for Life,

Vicky Cherry: which we didn’t learn until today. Exactly. And we’ve had Frank Pvo on several times. He’s kind of our resident pastor.

Vicky Cherry: Right? Yeah. Really? He is. Well, he’s the, the most, uh, Baptist preacher preacher in the Catholic Church. Catholic Church Church, yeah.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah. That’s how, that’s how they introduce Frank. So, and, and he can preach. He certainly can. Brian, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. It’s, it’s an honor. Hey, B, before we get started and go any further, we always start out with Jeremiah one, five and prayer.

Vicky Cherry: Before I formed you in the womb. I knew you before you were born. I sanctified you, I ordained you a prophet to the nations.

Bruce Cherry: Heavenly Father, we come to you once again to say thank you. Thank you for this day. Thank you for this time. Thank you for letting [00:02:00] us. Be the remnant that is here at this time. For this purpose, let us be about your business, of protecting the unborn, of changing hearts and minds and letting people know just how wrong it is to abort an unborn baby, and that all life is precious, all life matters, and God, we pray that all who hear this show tonight.

Bruce Cherry: Will be affected, will change their minds. We’ll come to know you as their Lord and Savior, and we’ll have the utmost respect for the life that you have ordained to be and that they come to know that no one has the right to take that life. God, we thank you for our guest. We thank you for our producer, Pete, and we thank you for this time.

Bruce Cherry: In Jesus’ name we pray. Amen.

Vicky Cherry: Amen.

Bruce Cherry: So, Brian, tell us about. What you do because you’re the activism and youth director, so it’s very important that we get the youth involved in the pro-life movement. Share with us some of the things that, that you are [00:03:00] responsible for.

Bryan Kemper: Well, the, the very first thing I’d love to share, because there’s only a couple weeks left for, for the youth to get involved is our Pro-Life essay contest that we’re running there at Priest for Life.

Bryan Kemper: Um, it is for junior high, high school and college age students, there are cash prizes. For junior high, it’s 300. For high school it’s 500, and for college students, a thousand dollars cash prize. For the best essay that is, uh, has no AI in it. That’s one thing. We’re running AI checkers on all the essays, but uh, it’s a great contest.

Bryan Kemper: And if they go to stand true.com. Slash essay contest, dan true.com/essay contest. There’s all the rules and the categories and and such, and, uh, it’s open for, for any young people that, that want a chance to, to win an essay or win a contest and, and also win some money. [00:04:00] And the winners also, if they go to the March for Life in DC, will be recognized at Dark Constitution Hall.

Bryan Kemper: Uh, at the, uh, big, uh, interdenominational, uh, pro-life prayer service the morning of the March for Life.

Bruce Cherry: When is the March for Life in DC

Bryan Kemper: That is, let me pull up the date. It’s usually right around the 22nd on the Friday, whatever that Friday is. So let me pull my calendar ’cause I don’t have it, uh, memorized at the moment, the 23rd.

Bryan Kemper: January 23rd. January 23rd. Okay. That’s the March for Life and then the West Coast Walk for Life in San Francisco, which I have to, I get to the end of the March for Life. Uh, we go to the silent, no more testimonies at the Supreme Court. I have to get two blocks away to get my Uber to the airport so I can catch a red eye, so I could be at seven in the morning at the Planned Parenthood in San Francisco the next morning.

Bryan Kemper: Wow. It’s craziness. Wow. So James and all of

Vicky Cherry: that, all of that [00:05:00] hopefully will fall in place. No delays. Well, that’s just

Bryan Kemper: part of it because like the Thursday before the march we’re at Planned Parenthood, then we have evening activism, then we have the early morning prayer service all day of the march. Then that it, it gets nuts, but it’s also beautiful to see.

Group: Mm-hmm. Wow.

Bruce Cherry: And I’m sure the Planned Parenthood people just hate you guys showing up there. Don’t.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, absolutely. In, in, in Washington DC they have a, a, a a dozen or so, we call them death escorts. They call themselves clinic escorts, but they’re, they’re, they’re not a clinic. They’re, they’re a death male.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: And those are the death escorts that, that, that get the women. And they try to tell the women don’t listen to the pro-life, or they grab the pro-life literature outta their hands and throw it away. They do everything they can to make sure that these women don’t hear another alternative.

Vicky Cherry: I know before when you were on Brian, you had, weren’t you at, uh, um, one of these and they thought you were part of the pro, uh, [00:06:00] pro-choice and they, um, wanted you to block, uh, help them block the door or something?

Vicky Cherry: Yes. Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: Yes. That’s happened twice. Uh, but, but way back in the day when I first got started with Operation Rescue, that happened twice. And on one of those, uh, the girl that was coming in ended up changing her mind. And then I got beat up a little bit by the pro aborts, but that’s worth it for, for the life of a child.

Bryan Kemper: Now

Bruce Cherry: wait, let’s, let’s back up. You say you got beat up a little bit. Are you talking figuratively or actually physically you were, you were abused.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, it’s, I’ve been physically abused dozens of times. I’ve been hit with Billy clubs by police officers, uh, punched in the face, the head kicked. Um, many, many things.

Bryan Kemper: Um, it, it’s just part of, part and parcel of, of activism sometimes. Um, but God’s always protected me. Um, I’ve always, uh, you know, even in jail. I had a, a, a, a miraculous thing happen in, in the Los Angeles County jail [00:07:00] once where many, uh, there was five of us that were sentenced to 30 days in jail for praying in front of the, the abortion mill.

Bryan Kemper: And we got sent to the LA County work farm out by what’s, uh, magic Mountain, which is a big amusement park up in the

Group: mm-hmm. In the

Bryan Kemper: hills there in, in California. And I got put in the, in barracks, so farthest away from the guards into the barracks with the head of the Mexican mafia, and he was head of this big Mexican gang.

Bryan Kemper: He ran the jail and when I sat down on the bench my first day, um, I got surrounded by about 30 guys of, of his gang. They were punching their hands and they’re like, what up sa, what are you doing in here? Why you in our barracks? I was, um, I was praying. I said, well, I was arrested for praying. And they looked at my tattoos and they were like, you didn’t pray.

Bryan Kemper: Look at that. That’s a Satanic star in your arm. And I’m like, actually, that’s a star of David. And it says, JC in the middle for [00:08:00] Jesus Christ. And they’re looking at me strange. And they’re like, wait a minute. What do you mean you got arrested for praying? And I said, well, I was praying against abortion. I was in front of an abortion mill where they kill babies and I was praying against it, kneeling and praying and blocking the door.

Bryan Kemper: And the head of the Mexican mafia was like, wait, you’re against abortion essay? And I’m like, yes, absolutely. That’s why I’m here. And he said some very choice words about abortion. And his girlfriend, his girlfriend had tried to have an abortion and he stopped her because he didn’t believe in killing babies.

Bryan Kemper: Wow. And he made an announcement to the whole jail that me and all the other pro-lifers had the full protection of their game. You got street credit now. And we spent the rest of the time in jail just walking around like nothing. Wow. It was beautiful. They would wake us up at night.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: Because one of the gang members would get a letter from home.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: And they would wake us [00:09:00] up and say, Hey man, this guy’s son died, or This guy’s mom died. We need, you gotta get over and pray for him right now. So it’s like one in the morning and we’re being told, get out of bed now. Like, yes sir. And to go pray for them. But that was just, I felt that was an honor, uh, for anything, to be honest.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah. Wow.

Bryan Kemper: But it

Bruce Cherry: that, and you’re right, that was, that was an honor. And God was watching over you. And God uses unlikely sources to affect his will at any given time. Absolutely. But it’s still, it’s blowing my mind that we’re talking about inside America, the United States of America, that American citizens were arrested for preying in public.

Vicky Cherry: Were you blocking anything too, or you were just praying? We

Bryan Kemper: did block on that one. We were blocking the doors, but there was two arrests in Washington DC during the Obama administration where they, they, Obama made it against the law to kneel and pray with [00:10:00] a sign in front of the White House. Wow. So Reverend Pat Mahoney and myself and many others went and we were arrested twice, um, over a weekend.

Bryan Kemper: But we, we basically said, if, if you tell me any place on this planet, I’m not allowed to pray. That’s the first thing I’m gonna go do is pray. Like you cannot tell me not to pray to God, and I will always, I will always defer to God and he always takes care of us.

Bruce Cherry: Amen. Wow. I never knew that. And see that’s something that the liberal media won’t share.

Bruce Cherry: I never knew that it was against the law at some point to pray in front of the White House. They, they don’t mind all the people protesting in front of the White House, but they don’t want you kneeling and praying in front of it. Yeah. At least the left.

Bryan Kemper: It was the left. So it, it, it’s, it’s going to get worse and it’s, it’s gonna happen more.

Bryan Kemper: I mean, uh, you, you have pro-lifers getting attacked and, and beaten [00:11:00] pretty badly. Um, you had a woman in, in the UK that was arrested for simply Silent Prayer. Uh,

Group: yeah. And I’m, I’m aware of that one, praying

Bryan Kemper: silently. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then arrested her for that. I like, this is something that we need to take seriously.

Bruce Cherry: We have a right to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, first Amendment. Right? And the fact that they are arresting people in this country, or have arrested people in this country for praying in public is, it’s just, it’s unbelievable.

Bryan Kemper: Yeah. Or, or doing the same thing that Rosa Parks did. With a simple, peaceful sit in.

Bryan Kemper: Mm-hmm. And they were trying to give these, these pro-lifers six, seven years in fed, in prison. Wow. In prison. Wow. For doing a simple, peaceful sit in.

Bruce Cherry: Hey Brian, we are up against a break. We’re gonna take a break. We’ve got Brian Kemper on Director of Stan True Rock for Life, and also, uh, uh, activism and youth director for Priest for [00:12:00] Life, uh, telling us about how he was arrested for praying in public.

Bruce Cherry: Stick around it. It gets better, folks, I promise you, in

Vicky Cherry: the United

Bruce Cherry: States of America, in the United States of America, more Pro-Life Radio. Coming up next on AM nine 50 FM 94.9. The answer

Vicky Cherry: and welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicky Cherry, and across from is I’m very handsome husband Bruce,

Bruce Cherry: and as I say, every week I pay her to say that. So.

Vicky Cherry: You, you own me

Bruce Cherry: and we’ve got a great guest with us tonight. Brian Kemper, director of Stand True Rock for Life and Activism and Youth director for Priest for Life.

Bruce Cherry: Very, very good friends with Frank Bavon. We understand and, and we have Frank on the show quite often. And, uh, father Frank as he’s known. And, um, so Brian is an honor to have you here and Brian was just telling us before we went to break, he was arrested and jailed. Obviously now I gather [00:13:00] numerous times, but for praying in front of an abortion clinic, but also you were arrested for praying in front of the White House.

Bryan Kemper: Yes. During the Obama administration, you could kneel and eat a sandwich, but if you knelt and had a sign in your hand or prayed that, that, that was considered illegal,

Bruce Cherry: what was the charge? What did they charge you with?

Bryan Kemper: Uh, it was a simple, we paid a site and release. We, we were taking it into custody for a few hours and then had to pay $75 and released.

Bryan Kemper: But our, our thing was, it was the principle. If you’re gonna tell me you cannot kneel and pray, then that’s exactly what I will do.

Vicky Cherry: You know, and this is what’s so crazy. So you’re having all these rallies and no Kings protest and Pride, pride parades, but yet. Obama was the one that was trying to tell people they couldn’t do things like that, that that would be a king ordering people [00:14:00] around.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, absolutely. The, the, the, the sad part of these, these no Kings protests and so many people is they don’t realize that what they’re on is the side of what. Absolutely not. These would’ve been

Group: Absolutely. That’s,

Bryan Kemper: that’s the thing. They’re on that side of quenching free speech and, and, and silencing, uh, their opposition.

Bryan Kemper: I was, um. Frank Pavone and I were sitting at a table, uh, in Washington, DC um, at lunchtime with, um, a representative from the White House who reaches out to pro-life groups and, and brings news back to the White House and such, and he suddenly had to rush off and we were, we were, we were surprised. Didn’t know where he went, and then all of our phones started going off, and that was the day that that Charlie Kirk was shot.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, wow. You know, and that’s, we were in a meeting talking about doing this stuff, and, and I will tell [00:15:00] you, um, you know, as sad and as horrific as that day was. What I’m seeing God doing with people afterwards is, is mind boggling. I’m so many people reaching out, uh, on Twitter, on social media. Mm-hmm. Uh, asking about God and, and seeing people come to church that normally hadn’t come to church and people want, I’m, I’m blown away by this.

Vicky Cherry: And that kind of answers so many of those questions when people ask, why would God allow that? Well, this is the result. This is the reason Charlie’s, where he’s longed to be as a Christian. Mm-hmm. He’s in the arms of Jesus talking with people like Paul and you know, he’s not in in any pain. He’s not wanting anything with

Bruce Cherry: the service that that man rendered to this country and to our society.

Bruce Cherry: When he was here on Earth, he’s, he’s sitting at the grownup table, as they say. He’s, yeah,

Bryan Kemper: absolutely. And, and one of the things though that I’ve been telling people, and I’ve been pushing on social media [00:16:00] and I, I, I love the, the beautiful tributes and um, um. And different things that are, that are, uh, there to honor Charlie and his work.

Bryan Kemper: But I wanna remind people because Charlie himself would look at all of that and tell every single one of us. Put that energy to Christ. Mm-hmm. Put that energy to Jesus. Mm-hmm. Not that it’s wrong to, to, to honor him ’cause we should.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: But it’s, he would want us to take that passion, that zeal, that anger, that everything, emotion that we’re feeling, and push that towards the gospel and spreading the gospel.

Bryan Kemper: That’s what Charlie would want.

Vicky Cherry: Amen.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah,

Vicky Cherry: it is. Yeah.

Bruce Cherry: And he, and he did it in all that he, that he did. Mm-hmm. Whenever he spoke with someone, he always gave credit to Jesus Christ. And, um, yeah. Yeah. He would, he wouldn’t want us to do that.

Vicky Cherry: You know, the other thing of the No, um, no Kings and all [00:17:00] that is their narrative is all the same.

Vicky Cherry: And that’s what makes it a keenly um, event because. You know, conservatives are kind of all over the place, which is very frustrating at times, but that’s part of free speech, that’s part of free thinking, that’s part of being, you know, not under a dictator. And so you can see it in this, in so many ways.

Vicky Cherry: It’s, I just, it’s crazy. Hopefully nothing, you know, this whole weekend will be calm and quiet and we won’t have a.

Bryan Kemper: Now I, it’s amazing to me where we’re at politically and stuff with this. Like I, my, I have a son who. Disagrees with me politically.

Group: Mm. He’s an

Bryan Kemper: adult now and he disagrees. Mm-hmm. And I still made sure and took him when he, when he was 18.

Bryan Kemper: Uh, he’s 18 now. I took him to his first election and I drove him there and made sure mm-hmm. He got to vote. Mm-hmm. Now he voted opposite of me. Mm-hmm. But I thought it [00:18:00] was a lesson to him is that we are the ones who believe in free speech, right? We want everybody to go out. Mm-hmm. And if that’s who you’re gonna vote for, vote for, use your voice for what you believe.

Bryan Kemper: And that’s really. What, what the right wants the left. They would, they would be horrified if anyone helped. Helped their right wing kid. Absolute. Absolutely would be. They’d rather you drop ’em off a canyon or something. Mm-hmm.

Vicky Cherry: You’re so right, Brian, that’s, you do see that even with my own daughter, she leaves a lifestyle that is against what, you know, she was brought up as, but she still has faith in God.

Vicky Cherry: And I had ran for a position a coup a year or so ago, anyway, I don’t remember how long it was, but mm-hmm. I said, well, are you gonna vote for your mom? And I, I guess I kind of thought she probably couldn’t because, you know, I thought she was, thought she probably A, a democrat. A Democrat, or at least a libertarian.

Vicky Cherry: She goes, oh no, I’m a, I’m a Republican. Like, all right. Amen.

Bruce Cherry: And she voted for, yeah. Yeah.

Bryan Kemper: So, um, I, [00:19:00] so my last arrest since you were interested in my arrest, this one is a, he’s got another one. Yes. Oh, I’m sure he is. Got

Vicky Cherry: more than one or two. Yeah.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, I’ve got many. But my last one was on election day. Oh. Um, so I spent election day at four or five different precincts around here in Ohio.

Bryan Kemper: I always stand with my signs and, and I greet people and thank them for voting and, and hold my signs. And I, I, I am very aware of the law, the a hundred foot mark, all of those, all of those aspects of mm-hmm. Of going to a polling place. Mm-hmm. And the last polling place I went to was a church in Tip City, Ohio.

Bruce Cherry: I know exactly where Tip City is. I’ve been there.

Bryan Kemper: Yes. Yeah. And I, I live in Troy, one city over from Tip.

Group: Okay.

Bryan Kemper: And I went to Tip City, Ohio, and I went to the church and I, they were a federal polling place. So I walked up to where they put the flag, the a hundred foot flag.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: And I stood outside of it with my [00:20:00] sign and they came out and they saw that it was a Trump sign and another local Republican, uh, candidate.

Bryan Kemper: And they said, well, we don’t want you here. And I said, well, okay, that’s nice. I am gonna stay here because it’s an election day. And they’re like, well, we don’t want you on our property. And I said, well, it’s not your property today. It’s an election day. You, you’re a federal polling place. You can’t pick and choose who gets to go to the polls.

Bryan Kemper: And this is a church. Yeah, and this was a church and they called the police and had me arrested. I was cited and then released, and then I got, uh, uh, I went to represent myself and the judge was just bothered and annoyed, and the guy from the church actually lied in court. I was convicted. Then, uh, the Ohio Supreme Court just last week, uh, threw out the conviction and, uh, talked it.

Bryan Kemper: As soon as they saw it, they knew it was bogus. So, wow. God always protects, but it’s just, it’s crazy that you can get a. Arrested and had the [00:21:00] police called on you by a church for standing up for pro-life stuff. Like that’s just,

Vicky Cherry: well, you know,

Bryan Kemper: mind boggling to me. Well, it’s mind

Vicky Cherry: boggling. We went, we used to have our church in another church building because they used their church on um, Saturdays and we used it on Sundays and during the big, um, vote amendment, vote on four, vote no on four.

Vicky Cherry: My husband had put our signs up out front and they took them and he went over and talked to them and finally did get the, the signs back. But it was a big deal I had, and we are no longer at that church.

Bruce Cherry: I had to threaten to have the pastor and two of his people arrested for removing political. Signs.

Bruce Cherry: Mm-hmm. Which is uh, oh my goodness. Yeah, that’s illegal. Was this a Seventh Day Adventist Church? Yes. You didn’t hear that? Yeah. We weren’t gonna say that Friday, were say, but

Vicky Cherry: yes. Let’s put it this way. They were a church that meets

Bruce Cherry: on Saturday.

Vicky Cherry: Yeah, but not only that, Brian, they also were right. Oh, within less than a block from the abortion clinic,

Bruce Cherry: uh, a hundred yards, which [00:22:00]

Vicky Cherry: our abortion clinic and our, um, pregnancy center share the same driveway in Maitland here and, um, are on Maitland.

Vicky Cherry: On Maitland and Altamont Spring. And so right down is the abor, the church. And so people would park like the, the doctors and people would park their cars at that church’s parking lot. They approved it, they allowed it. The church did for the abortionist.

Bruce Cherry: And here’s

Bryan Kemper: that is not a Christian Church.

Bruce Cherry: No, not at all.

Bruce Cherry: And here’s what I was told. We’re, we’re getting kind of close here on time, but I’ll tell you this. When I asked them where my signs were, they said we took them. You can’t put those signs out there. And I said, we rent this property from you guys. We put signs out all the time. Well, you can’t put those signs out.

Bruce Cherry: That’s not what we stand for. So my next question, the obvious question was why don’t you stand for it? And they said, we don’t do anything political and you can’t have the science back. Well, by this point, at the time I was the chairman of the, that’s theft. Oh, yeah. And at the time, I was the chairman of [00:23:00] the Republican party for Seminole County, Florida.

Bruce Cherry: And so I said, okay, well two things. I, I was angry, righteous, indignation. Uh, I said, well, two things. One, you’re gonna give me my signs back. Two, if you don’t, I’m calling the sheriff and I’ll have you arrested. If you notice on the bottom of those signs says, paid for political advertisement, you cannot remove those without the permission of the person who put them there.

Bruce Cherry: You don’t have my permission. You removed them illegally. So it wound up being a big roar. I ended up talking with the pastor. He gave me the signs back. He says, you can’t put those back out there. And I marched ’em right back out. There were 10 signs and I put them all back where they were and I dared them to take them.

Bruce Cherry: I said, if you do, I’m gonna have you arrested. They said, well, we’re gonna call the supervisor of elections for your county. I said, I’m gonna let you know something. I know the supervisor of elections for our county know him very well and I promise you he has even less authority to remove [00:24:00] those signs than you do.

Bruce Cherry: So, and we wound up, uh, they came to us uh, a week later and says, we’re not gonna renew your your lease. That’s fine. ’cause we’re not gonna give you any more of our money. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, hey, we’ve got another break, man. This is flying by. I know. We need to book you for a couple of shows, Brian.

Bruce Cherry: We’ll be right back. Anytime. We’ll be right back with More Pro-Life Radio. We’ve got Brian Kemper on with us tonight. Director of Stand True Rock for Life and Activism and Youth Director for Priest for Life More Pro-Life Radio. Coming up on AM nine 50 FM 94.9. The answer streaming on the answer orlando.com.

Bruce Cherry: And we are back with Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night, and the time is flying by and I am mad. Are

Vicky Cherry: you mad? I am.

Bruce Cherry: I am. I have righteous indignation. I mean, the fact that that Brian Kemper, our guest, has been arrested several [00:25:00] times for doing something that every American has a right to do. Pray in public. I mean, if you can burn an American at the White House Yeah, at the White House, if you can burn an American flag.

Bruce Cherry: Why on Earth could you not be allowed to pray in public at the White House, the people’s house, whoever is sitting in the White House, whether it’s Donald Trump, Joe Biden, although Biden didn’t know he was in the White House, but Barack Obama, whoever, it’s not the president’s home,

Vicky Cherry: and let’s bring that out.

Vicky Cherry: It was Barack Obama that said that Brian could not stand exactly outside of the White House and pray. Nail with a sign and pray Now, who’s a king? Yeah. Absolutely. Or acting like a king.

Bryan Kemper: Yeah. And, and it’s happening in other countries and we, we, we always, you know, we forget to look what’s going on other places.

Bryan Kemper: ’cause those, those things are gonna start happening here. You have places, um, in, in the UK where the entire city is run. Basically by Muslim law [00:26:00] and it’s, and it’s scary. And in Dearborn, Michigan, I was just gonna say, look at Michigan getting close to that. Absolutely. We need to look at these things now. I am not one that believes that the, that the government should enforce church law.

Bryan Kemper: I don’t believe that. I think morals, certain morals, you don’t kill people, things like that. But we also need to be, be concerned about places that want to push things like Sharia law here in America.

Vicky Cherry: Well, and we do need to be concerned about these churches. ’cause it was like you were just talking about before the break, it was a church that got you arrested.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, absolutely. A Catholic church at that. Wow. You know, and, and, uh, now I’m not saying it was the Catholic church obviously, but this one particular church was, was very wrong in what they did. Mm-hmm. And, uh, it’s absolutely incredible that, that a church wants to quash free speech. And, and it’s, it’s, that’s why even before [00:27:00] in between the segments and the break, we had mentioned Bill Maher and I was thinking about how incredible he’s been lately on the subject of free speech.

Bryan Kemper: Mm-hmm. He’s actually been defending free speech. And saying a lot of decent things. Not, not the way he was when I used to do his show, but he’s, he’s coming definitely more towards the side of understanding what free speech is.

Bruce Cherry: Well, you know, the thing is that when you see Stephen Colbert lose his show and then Jimmy Kimmel loses his show for a week or two, whatever it was, and then now he’s back you all of a sudden these people that are screaming to quash.

Bruce Cherry: The conservative Christian movement and to silence us, all of a sudden they start to realize, oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. What if we could no longer enjoy free speech? And so now you’ve got guys like, well, of course Bill Maher was ahead of the curve. He was talking about free speech before these guys were.

Bruce Cherry: Um, if you think about Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk paid the ultimate [00:28:00] price for free speech. And

Bryan Kemper: Bill, mark got along with Charlie. He liked Charlie Kirk.

Bruce Cherry: Mm. So yeah, you got, you’ve got, now you’ve got people that are afraid that free speech is, is in jeopardy. And it is in jeopardy. Because when you’re, when you’re shedding light on, on darkness, when you’re sharing truth, you know, the other side doesn’t want that truth to come out.

Bruce Cherry: Obviously,

Vicky Cherry: what’s so frustrating to me is the truth of the church. What, what is wrong with the church? And when you’re getting people arrested for free speech, when you’re aligning with pro-choice people that want babies killed in the womb, I, I just don’t see where you we’re reading in a different Bible.

Bryan Kemper: And you know, I wish just because there’s so many churches and so many church leaders that have chosen to dismiss these obvious calls to action from God. [00:29:00] That’s political. Mm-hmm. We don’t want to get involved politically. We don’t wanna get involved politically.

Vicky Cherry: Well, you know what, that was the other thing that Bruce didn’t mention about the church that we were talking about earlier.

Vicky Cherry: They also said they didn’t do anything political, but yet they were a polling place

Bruce Cherry: and they considered themselves very close friends with the supervisor of elections. Yeah.

Bryan Kemper: It, it’s, it’s absolutely asinine. To say that the abortion issue is not a gospel issue. The murder of innocent children, image bearers of God is not a, is not a, a Christian issue.

Bryan Kemper: Yes, it’s, it’s absolutely our duty, not just our right, but our duty as Christians to stand up and be a voice for the voiceless. And if churches are silent about abortion. They are, they, they have no idea what, who God is, in my opinion.

Vicky Cherry: Or not even just [00:30:00] silent. They have no idea. They’re not just silent.

Vicky Cherry: They’re going the other way. They’re saying that they have the right. Absolutely.

Bruce Cherry: You know, there’s something, I wish you said this and, and I’ve heard Brian say this also, and I wish we could get away from it. The other side, they call themselves pro-choice. No, they’re not pro-choice. No, they’re not. If they were pro-choice, they wouldn’t be smacking material out of a young lady’s hand.

Group: People can absolutely, while

Bruce Cherry: she’s being escorted into the mortuary. Mm-hmm. Because they don’t want her to see that if they were pro-choice, they wouldn’t have thrown such a fit. 10 years ago here in Florida, when it became law that. They had the right to see, uh, an ultrasound because they didn’t want them to see that ultrasound.

Bruce Cherry: ’cause they know, once they see an ultrasound, they see that baby moving and kicking and everything. They’re gonna make, they’re, they’re more, like, more than likely gonna make the choice that that baby should live. They’re not pro-choice. They’re, they wanna silence us.

Bryan Kemper: Every other act, every other thing that people are pro, everything that people stand up for, whether it’s gun rights, they’re pro [00:31:00] gun rights, whether it’s gay marriage, they’re pro gay marriage, whether it’s legalizing marijuana, they’re pro marijuana.

Bryan Kemper: They are pro-abortion.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: They are so disgusted by the word abortion. That they refuse mm-hmm. To publicly call themselves pro-abortion because they know what that sounds like and they know what that that means. And so they’ve co-opted, could be anything. Are you, uh, in, you know, crunchy or, or smooth peanut butter?

Bryan Kemper: That’s a choice.

Group: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: Do you like diet Coke or regular coke? That’s a choice. Do you like vanilla ice cream or, or chocolate ice cream Now? What they are is pro-abortion and they need to be addressed as that. That’s what they are.

Bruce Cherry: Absolutely.

Vicky Cherry: Yeah. And they have for years made very, um, clear choices of words and we have just let it happen, you know?

Vicky Cherry: Mm-hmm. Like my body, my choice. No, it’s not your body. Oh yeah. We should have never just. Ignored that point. [00:32:00] ’cause that’s, they’ve gotten a lot of leeway outta that point. And they

Bruce Cherry: were good with it. My body, my choice, until we started using it during COVID. Mm-hmm. And they were trying to force all of us to get shots.

Bruce Cherry: It’s like, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. My body, my choice. Nope, nope. You gotta do this for the good of the people, you know?

Bryan Kemper: Well, they, they also use words that. That they think are sort of, that, that, that key word, that, that tells them that, that they are right, like the word sentient. They always say, well, sentient, if the, if the baby’s not sentient, then they’re, they’re not alive.

Bryan Kemper: Well, sentient is literally just a 17th century word. That was used as a construct to try to, to describe what it means to feel, there’s no real measurable thing to it. Um, and then the other one that they will use is viability. Well, the definition of viable and viability just means you are able to live in the place you are.

Bryan Kemper: And so they, they, they try to go, well, there’s an age of viability. No. The age of [00:33:00] viability is wherever they’re at, at that age. If they’re living, they’re viable. That’s another to if, if throw somebody into the, and for me, the, the worst one though. Mm-hmm. And the one I think the pro-life movement really talk about is that the, the, the idea of being assigned personhood by a human.

Group: Mm.

Bryan Kemper: We are a human person simply because we exist. As a human person, the moment that you’re an individual human being, which is conception, and that’s what science says, that’s the moment an individual human being starts, you are a person. When we allow the government to decide who is a person and who is not a person.

Bryan Kemper: That’s when you have the slavery trade, that’s when you have the Nazis. That’s what they did. They chose when some people were or weren’t persons, [00:34:00] or if some people were or were not actual persons. Every single human being from the moment of existence is a human person and must be protected at all times.

Bruce Cherry: Absolutely. You mentioned a sign viability, a sign. Personhood, personhood. It’s just like you, you hear these things now, you see them Now I, I filled out forms before this, you know, uh, and, and they’re, they’re fighting for this in places like California and Oregon. Um, they want to take off sex on the birth certificate when the child is born and assign that later.

Bryan Kemper: No, it’s not something that’s assigned. It’s inherent. Exactly. Exactly. And we must, yeah, we must continue to, to teach that. This is not something you can assign someone because it already exists. It’s absolutely inherent the moment you begin to exist.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah. If we start assigning sex, [00:35:00] we’re not assigning it, we’re selecting it, and God didn’t give us that.

Bruce Cherry: Right.

Vicky Cherry: Well, so, so many things Absolutely. That you mentioned, Brian, the viability, if you threw somebody in the ocean, they wouldn’t be very viable without certain equipment. Right? If you, if you put somebody the signed personhood, and we’re letting the women decide, do they own these babies? Are they their, their, you know, their masters, they decide if they live or die.

Vicky Cherry: Or if you can’t feel something, that’s Ute

Bryan Kemper: sanity.

Vicky Cherry: Yeah. Mm-hmm. And, and if or if you can’t feel something like they say, well, baby can’t feel em six weeks. Well, if a paralyzed person can’t feel, are we gonna kill them? Because they can’t feel.

Bryan Kemper: I don’t know what’s going on when I’m asleep. Does that mean I’m not alive?

Bruce Cherry: Vicky would tell you that sometimes I don’t know what’s going on when I’m awake, but uh,

Vicky Cherry: no, I would not. I would not,

Bruce Cherry: but I mean, she won’t tell me while you’re on the radio with us. Yeah, exactly. [00:36:00] Exactly. Hey, we’ve got another break coming up. We’ve got Brian Kemper with us for one more segment here, Pro-Life Radio tonight.

Bruce Cherry: Soon. A very interesting conversation and, um. I just pray that we’re reaching somebody out there who’s trying to make a choice right now, and, uh, stick around. We’ll be right back with more Pro-Life Radio on AM nine 50 FM 94.9, the answer,

Vicky Cherry: and welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicky Cherry, and here in the studio again is Maya. It’s been bruised.

Bruce Cherry: Do I owe you? I didn’t get the handsome husband. That, that I forgot to. Oh God. Yeah. You

Vicky Cherry: are in airs.

Bruce Cherry: Alright then. Welcome back on a Sunday night and, uh, just a, a great time tonight and it’s, it’s flown by so fast so I don’t wanna waste any more time.

Bruce Cherry: We’ve got Brian Kemper with us for a few more minutes. He’s the director of Stand True Rock for Life and also the [00:37:00] activism and youth director for Priest for Life. And, um. Uh, one question. Brian, how many times have you been arrested?

Bryan Kemper: Oh, I’d say maybe 20 times. Wow. Um, here, and I even was arrested for praying in front of an abortion mill and blocking the doors in, uh, Sydney, Australia once.

Bryan Kemper: Wow.

Vicky Cherry: So you just spread that around, spread the love there, go.

Bryan Kemper: Oh, absolutely. If, if they’re killing babies, I’m gonna go there and stand out against it.

Vicky Cherry: Amen.

Bruce Cherry: There

Bryan Kemper: you go. Well, you were doing

Bruce Cherry: the Lord’s work, my friend.

Vicky Cherry: We, we were talking briefly before we came back on about, there’s a shift and you wanted to mention that shift that you’re seeing in the pro-life and, uh, abortion.

Bryan Kemper: Absolutely. A a as we’re starting to see your, your typical, um, standalone abortion mill. Um. Buildings planned Parenthoods and such are, are going by the wayside for the most part. [00:38:00] Um, I would say at least 60% or more of abortion right now is being done through the abortion pill and unfortunately, very illegally through the mail in different, different channels.

Bryan Kemper: Uh, these pills are going out. People are stockpiling. Uh, some, some abortion activists or stopped filing abortion pills. I’ve seen them stand in front of the Supreme Court. Uh. Taking what they say are abortion pills just as protest to pro-lifers and such. Um, it, it’s definitely something that we should be aware of.

Bryan Kemper: And if you think about this too, can you imagine if all of these abortions are now being moved to home abortions and every one of those children are being flushed into our, our, our systems mm-hmm. Down toilets, how disgusting that is, but. That when we see these mega abortion mills closing, I, I do get excited.

Bryan Kemper: I do [00:39:00] celebrate. I’m very happy when one closes, but I’m not gonna be happy until Planned Parenthood is not just defunded, not just shut down, but prosecuted for years and years of killing innocent little children and harming so many women. And that’s what we need to, we need to celebrate when they’re closed, but we need to understand there’s more that has to happen.

Bryan Kemper: We are barely scratching the surface of what we have to do in this battle. When we saw Roe versus Wade overturned, obviously I was ecstatic. Mm-hmm. But we knew, and, and that that was just one step. That everything before Roe versus Wade, before the Dobbs decision was sort of like the preseason. Now we’re in the regular season.

Bryan Kemper: Now we’re in the stuff that counts and we really have to raise our efforts, raise our voices, and be louder and more vocal for Christ than we ever have been. [00:40:00]

Vicky Cherry: When somebody made a point. If the left and Planned Parenthood are not going crazy about all these abortion clinics just closing down, there’s a reason.

Vicky Cherry: Because Absolutely. They see what the future is holding. It’s going to the homes, it’s going down the toilets.

Bruce Cherry: And, and not to mention the fact that if they can close their brick and mortar buildings, that’s a huge expense. Mm-hmm. That they have, that they don’t have to have anymore.

Vicky Cherry: You know, and people argue that Planned Parenthood did so much more than just abortions.

Vicky Cherry: You can see right now that’s not, that’s not the case. That’s not the truth.

Bruce Cherry: If it were, if they were really doing women’s healthcare, they wouldn’t be shuttering. Right. Their businesses. Right.

Bryan Kemper: Well, I’ve al I’ve also said so what? That they’re doing other things. Should we? Yeah. Should we go and celebrate our highway system that Adolf Hitler built for, for.

Bryan Kemper: The Volkswagen because Adolf Hitler had it made. He did some great things. Mm-hmm. But we still realized he was one of the most evil men in history and we don’t [00:41:00] celebrate anything about what he did.

Bruce Cherry: Right. No. But the left is very, very prominent about calling the right Nazis.

Vicky Cherry: And Kings. And Kings. All thats,

Bruce Cherry: and yeah.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah. That sort of thing.

Vicky Cherry: We’re seeing that I’m sure all over.

Bruce Cherry: And we’re, you know, we’re not the ones putting people in box cars and shuttling all, shuttling them off to ovens. But I,

Bryan Kemper: I digress. But that’s what’s going to happen to Christians if we don’t stand up.

Vicky Cherry: Absolutely. Mm-hmm. And, and I think so.

Bryan Kemper: We need to stop being nicer than Jesus.

Bryan Kemper: That’s the best way to put it. Right. Christians need to stop being nicer than Jesus. There are times, especially when it’s supposedly our own side, that we need to flip some tables.

Vicky Cherry: Amen. I totally agree. So Brian, let’s mention some more about what we were talking about, um, earlier about the. Um, the walk The essay contest.

Vicky Cherry: The essay contest. Um,

Bryan Kemper: yes, I, I’m super excited ’cause I, I read every essay last year and I, [00:42:00] I’ll tell you, I was blown away. The best essays I read were the junior high ones.

Group: Mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: Like the winner of the junior high. In my opinion. If we would’ve put ’em all, all three categories together and picked a grand winner, it would’ve been the junior high.

Group: Wow.

Bryan Kemper: I was so excited for it. So I just think it’s a great way for young people, ’cause I always get young people say, Hey, how can I get involved? What can I do this pro-life? You know, I can’t go work at a pro-life organization. Well here’s a great way for you to do this because those essays are gonna reach a lot of people.

Bryan Kemper: And so I really encourage young people, um, to, to. Enter this essay contest and even if they don’t win, it’s a great way to do some studying and learn about, uh, pro-life issues. And you can always reach us at Priest for Life for different materials, but there’s so much on the internet and I just, I would really like to see, I think it would be really cool if it ends up being one of your listeners.

Bryan Kemper: Kids that wins this essay contest [00:43:00] will have to come back on and talk about it with that winner if it is

Bruce Cherry: fantastic. Amen? Yes. So when is the deadline to have their essay in?

Bryan Kemper: It’s coming up at the very beginning of November. Um, I believe around the sixth. So all the information is at Stand True STA t.com/sa

Bruce Cherry: contest?

Bryan Kemper: Yes. Mm-hmm.

Vicky Cherry: Okay. Right. So that is important. And then the March for Life is January 23rd.

Bryan Kemper: Absolutely. And Frank Pavone will be, um, uh, presenting the awards to the winners of the essay contest there at the march. If their families come to the march. If they do come and last year I’ll. There is a, uh, big, um, prayer service, uh, pro-life international or an international prayer service mm-hmm.

Bryan Kemper: At Dark Constitution Hall the morning of the march. And the winners will be presented with awards there, and there’ll be some great [00:44:00] speeches and, um, great music and, and stuff going on at that event.

Vicky Cherry: Hmm. And what is their essay theme? I imagine it’s about life, but what, is there any specifics? Let

Bryan Kemper: me pull up the exact wording.

Bryan Kemper: I, I, I haven’t, uh, memorized the exact wording. Gimme a second. I, I, it, it has to do with why they are pro-life. Okay. But gimme one second.

Bruce Cherry: And Brian, I’ve already put a mark next to your name that we need to have you back soon.

Vicky Cherry: Yes, absolutely.

Bryan Kemper: Topic this year is why I am pro-life in a culture that promotes abortion.

Bruce Cherry: Oh,

Bruce Cherry: very nice.

Vicky Cherry: So if you’re listening in those age groups, or if your parents are listening or grandparents, great way for them to win. Possibly win $500, a thousand dollars, $300, [00:45:00] depending on their age, but to just, they have

Bryan Kemper: till

Vicky Cherry: November 7th,

Bryan Kemper: November 7th, Friday the seventh.

Vicky Cherry: So that would be great. So start your essay now.

Vicky Cherry: Why I am pro-life in a culture that is not,

Bruce Cherry: I remember when I was a teenager. Okay. And if you want me to Not long

Vicky Cherry: ago.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah. And if, and if you wanted me to write an essay, you better attach some cash to it.

Vicky Cherry: Some cash, yeah. That’s a nice, yeah, that’s a nice amount of cash. Mm-hmm.

Bruce Cherry: Alright, so Brian. Oh, absolutely.

Bryan Kemper: Especially

Bruce Cherry: for a student. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. And, and, uh, as a high school student, that might be a down payment on your first car or, you know, uh, uh, of course today’s students would be more like, I just

Bryan Kemper: bought my son his first car. That’s a lot more of a down payment nowadays.

Bruce Cherry: These, these days, these kids would be like, oh man, a thousand dollars.

Bruce Cherry: That’s a new gaming console. You know, that sort of thing. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So Brian, how can folks get in touch with you? [00:46:00]

Bryan Kemper: Oh, stand true.com is, is the website okay. Or my personal email? I’ll go ahead and give it out. BK like Burger King bk@standtrue.com.

Group: Okay.

Bryan Kemper: So, and I have to say this while I’m on the air, ’cause you guys are in Orlando.

Bryan Kemper: Um, you know. Columbus crew are better than you guys just saying. Oh,

Group: okay. What?

Bryan Kemper: I’m sorry. I’m a big soccer fan, so,

Bruce Cherry: okay. All right. We’ll let you get by with that one.

Vicky Cherry: Well, Brian, we still have about two minutes, so what else can you share with us before we have to get off?

Bryan Kemper: Just wanna say this, I grew up in a, in a, in a.

Bryan Kemper: No religion, no faith, um, really at all. And, and, and ended up in the streets doing so much. And, um, I just, I just hope if you don’t know Christ, if you don’t know [00:47:00] Jesus, um, contact me, email me, contact, um, the, our host here, uh, Bruce and and such at the radio station, Vicky, and, and, and just. Talk to us. If there is anyone out there who just wants to know more about, love to pray for you, we’d love to talk with you, get you a Bible, whatever you need.

Bryan Kemper: I, I, we don’t want your money. We don’t want any of that. We just want you to know who Jesus is and that’s the most important thing I can say, and

Bruce Cherry: amen. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes it is. Absolutely. Brian, we want to thank you for being with us on the show tonight. We thank you for your time. We thank you for all that you are doing, and we want to pray because Brian is, uh, is going to be having surgery in a, in a couple of weeks.

Bruce Cherry: And so, uh, we wanna pray for that. I’m getting

Bryan Kemper: a brand new knee,

Bruce Cherry: a brand new knee, so, uh, you probably wore the other knee out praying in front of the White House [00:48:00] and, and in Australia and places like that. So let’s, uh, dear Heavenly Father. We come to you. We thank you for Brian being with us. We thank you for the service that you have him.

Bruce Cherry: Performing. And, and God, we just thank you for men like Brian, men and women like Brian, and we ask you to bless them and, and walk with them. And God, we pray for Brian’s surgery that’s coming up, that you guide the hands of the surgeon, that uh, he have complete healing and that that healing be rapid and that, uh, ’cause we need him back out on the playing field soon.

Bruce Cherry: And heavenly Father, we just thank you for this time with Brian. We thank you for the heart he has for service, the heart, he has for the unborn and the heart. He has. To just be a, a great child of the Lord. Most high God. We thank you and we pray to you in the name of your precious son, Jesus Christ. Amen.

Vicky Cherry: Amen. Amen.

Bruce Cherry: Alright,

Bryan Kemper: thank you so

Bruce Cherry: much Brian. Thank you. And we will be in touch, wanna know how that surgery goes. And uh, thank you again for being on this show. Have a great and blessed night.

Bryan Kemper: Yeah, let’s, let’s [00:49:00] talk after the essay contest and maybe, uh, announce the winners.

Vicky Cherry: Alright, sounds good. Yeah, sounds good.

Vicky Cherry: And if you’re in Florida a lot, maybe we can have you in studio.

Bruce Cherry: Yeah, that’d be great.

Bryan Kemper: Anytime. Absolutely.

Bruce Cherry: All right. All right. That’s it for this edition of Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. Thank you all. God bless, and we’ll see you next week here on AM nine 50 FM 94.9 The answer.