From Fear to Forgiveness: A Family’s Story of Grace and the Abortion Pill Reversal
Conversation with Rebekah Hagan
Here is a speaker-organized summary of the key points, decisions, and next steps from the discussion:
Summary of Discussion with Speakers
Speaker 1 (Bruce Cherry)
Welcomed listeners and introduced the show and guests
Shared a prayer for the show and the pro-life movement
Discussed the importance of addressing difficult topics like unplanned pregnancies and abortion in the church
Speaker 2 (Rebecca Hagan)
Shared her personal story of having an unplanned pregnancy, taking the abortion pill, and then regretting her decision and seeking the abortion pill reversal treatment
Described the process of chemical abortion and how she was not fully informed about the two-step process
Explained how she found information about the abortion pill reversal and connected with a care provider who was able to help her
Discussed the challenges she faced with her family’s initial reaction and the healing that occurred in her relationship with her father
Key Points and Decisions
The importance of open and honest conversations about difficult topics like unplanned pregnancies and abortion within families and churches
The need for greater awareness and accessibility of information about the abortion pill reversal treatment
The critical role that pregnancy centers can play in supporting women who regret their decision to have an abortion
Next Steps
Rebecca Hagan encouraged listeners to visit her website (RebeccaHagan.org) to learn more about her story and speaking engagements
She also provided the website AbortionPillReversal.com as a resource for women who have taken the first abortion pill and are seeking help to reverse the process
The show hosts announced a upcoming debate episode on the topic of whether abortion should be illegal and criminalized
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:00:01,160 ]And welcome to a chilly, chilly, chilly Sunday night pro-life radio. Bruce Cherry in the studio with my lovely wife, Vicki Cherry, across from me.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:00:10,140 ] Good evening.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:00:11,620 ] And I don’t know about you guys, but throw another log on the fire. We are getting more than our fair share of winter here in Central Florida.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:00:20,030 ] It’s been different.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:00:21,030 ] To say the least, yeah. To say the very least.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:00:24,770 ] The dog doesn’t want to go out because she’s afraid she’ll, you know, freeze in place while she’s… Doing her business, I think so anyway. We’re here with you tonight. We’ve got a great guest, Rebecca Hagan, is with us. Rebecca has a very unique story— one that we believe everyone should hear. And we’re going to talk with Rebecca here in just a bit. But of course, we always start off with Jeremiah 1: 5 and prayer.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:00:49,830 ] Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I sanctified you. I ordained you a prophet to the nations.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:00:58,920 ] Heavenly Father, thank you. Thank you for another opportunity to sit down and share truth, and to hopefully open eyes and change hearts of those out there who find themselves in a crisis, that find themselves facing a decision— whether or not to choose abortion or to choose life. And God, we work and we pray and we hope that they choose life, but we want to share truth with them. We want to share that there’s healing. In the blood of Christ that all they have to do is ask for that healing and we want to share that no one has a right to disqualify to end a life that you have ordained to live— all life matters, all life is precious, and there is forgiveness and there is hope. And we just pray that we change hearts and minds tonight. We pray for blessings upon our guest, Rebecca Hagen, and her ministry. And we pray for continued blessings upon Pro-Life Radio. And we thank you for this opportunity and all to share this show. And we pray to you in the name of your precious son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. All right, Rebecca, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:02:00,940 ] How are you?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:02:02,830 ] I am doing well. I’ve just survived this storm. But other than that, I’m doing great.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:02:06,970 ] Okay, so now let me ask you, what part of the United States are you in?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:02:12,430 ] I now live in Northwest Louisiana.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:02:15,570 ] Louisiana, okay. Uh, so you guys had some cold weather too and and did you have snow?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:02:21,850 ] We did. We had snow. We had ice. The kids were out of school for the entire week. So it was chaotic.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:02:27,160 ] Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:02:28,020 ] It was chaotic.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:02:28,980 ] Yeah, really. It’s like a hurricane for us. But we’re getting some cold weather here. We had a severe frost warning last night.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:02:37,490 ] Temperatures got down into the 20s. So, yeah, it’s just woo-hoo-hoo. And the cold is still hanging out. And now, of course, last week we had 85-degree weather. So this is perfect flu weather here in central Florida.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:02:48,170 ] I know. At my job, we had to go around. We have 14 buildings on our property at House of Hope in Orlando. We went around and put rags and plastic bags on all our outside spigots and I didn’t dream when I moved to Florida I would ever have to be doing that.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:03:04,620 ] Yeah, because Vicki’s from Montana. This cold weather stuff is old hat to her, except for the fact she’s been here for about five years now, and her blood has thinned out.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:03:13,360 ] No. I still wear my flip-flops.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:03:15,890 ] She does. In severe cold weather, she wears flip-flops. And when we go back to Montana to visit family, she’ll have on a coat and flip-flops in snow. So, yeah, she’s become a Florida gal, I guess. OK, so Rebecca.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:03:30,270 ] Is Rebecca Hagan is one of today’s most passionate and relatable voices on topics of unplanned pregnancy and abortion pill reversal and faith-based pro-life advocacy? Now, Rebecca, you were one of the first people, my understanding is, in the country to try the abortion reversal pill. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:03:47,180 ] Yeah, yeah, that’s correct. And at the time, I didn’t even know it existed, but thanks be to God, here we are.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:03:52,520 ] So tell us your story. It started with you having your second unplanned pregnancy.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:03:58,660 ] And you took the abortion pill. But then you had a change of heart. What led to that?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:04:06,450 ] Oh, my. Well, I feel like I have to back up a bit. Because people wonder, you know, how could someone that… sort of easily chose life the first time.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:04:16,779 ] end up pregnant and now so easily or quickly choose abortion. You knew better and you were smart and you knew about fetal development.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:04:26,590 ] I think there was. Just like in so many of these stories with young women.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:04:32,260 ] Year. Fear and… shame that totally consumed me and I thought, you know, my parents. Don’t deserve this, my Amen. Dreams can’t be put on hold. Again, here I am. I’m a college freshman. I already know what it’s like. To have one baby that I can hardly afford. We barely survived high school. How am I going to get through college with two? You know, just the thought that this time it was enough to. to break me. And so.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:00,540 ] Your listeners probably know this, but it’s good just to… Thank you. You know, remind them that. Most people choosing this don’t think it’s a good idea. They think it’s probably their only.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:13,940 ] Their only choice.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:16,150 ] Parenting’s not viable. Adoption didn’t seem viable.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:19,680 ] And so they kind of get quartered into this. Position and it’s ironic that people call it choice, because most of the people making it don’t feel like they have any choice at all.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:29,720 ] That. Desperate. But to your point.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:33,390 ] Yes, they chose. Abortion the second time around, no one was supposed to know I was going to do it. Like a lot of people in secret. Mm-hmm. Began searching.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:44,350 ] You know, the way that they market. Medication or chemical abortion in particular is that it’s naturally. Convenient. It’s a third of the cost.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:05:53,640 ] No one has to know. You can go back to work or school in 24 hours. You’re not having surgery. And so it seems to a young… scared person like. Perfect solution. And you. Sort of convince yourself.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:06:07,530 ] Can I ask you, Rebecca, so the first time you had your baby, were your parents helpful? Did they make you feel ashamed? Did they, you know, were they hard to work with?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:06:20,440 ] With my first baby, I would say that they eventually came to what I call reluctant support and reluctant grace. You know, it took some time. And. My dad was angry and there was. a period where he didn’t. speak to me, which was difficult because we lived in the same home. And you just feel.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:06:41,380 ] less than you feel. like a freak and like you’ve messed up.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:06:45,920 ] Thank you.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:06:46,210 ] beyond repair. End. I love my dad. He was… Reacting in the only way he knew. How it wasn’t.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:06:55,120 ] Mean he didn’t throw me to the streets, but it didn’t feel super dignifying. So that makes sense.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:07:00,380 ] So they would have preferred both your mom dad would have preferred that you had an abortion with your first child.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:07:06,850 ] Well, that never came up. I didn’t actually know how my family felt about abortion, but they would certainly have preferred that I didn’t get pregnant, that I didn’t bring this shame into the family, that this was not the route that we were walking down. And it wasn’t. Like you know, the best choice that you can make is to choose life. It was. We didn’t have those affirming, kind conversations.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:07:26,220 ] I don’t know. Now, Rebecca, let me ask you, was your family big in the church community in your hometown?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:07:33,070 ] Yes. I mean, we attended a very small, conservative church my entire life. My dad was in our worship team. The church had maybe… a maximum of 200 people, so everybody knew everybody.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:07:46,500 ] And. still abortion and being pro-life and unplanned pregnancies.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:07:52,160 ] Those were things that we didn’t. We didn’t ever talk about it. Off the table. So to walk through it. I think was shocking and there was a definite level of shame for everyone.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:08:04,340 ] So that’s definitely where our pastors could do a better job with the families in their churches. You know, then it wouldn’t have been that. And to help your parents. Along with the decision, help them as a community with needs and emotions.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:08:19,400 ] And I think pastors struggle, and this is not a pass in any way towards pastors, but I think they struggle with balancing the line between showing support and forgiveness.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:08:33,200 ] And not showing like you’re condoning or supporting the youth of the church going out and having sex and getting pregnant. And so their balance is— we just don’t address it.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:08:47,710 ] Kind of like addiction.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:08:48,710 ] Hmm hmm. Yeah.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:08:49,750 ] Yeah.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:08:50,750 ] So. Well, we interrupted. I’m sorry. Please continue.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:08:55,100 ] No, that’s okay. And so all of those. Thoughts are going in. Through my head the second time, you know? My dad was not happy, and I… adjustment in our relationship.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:09:06,800 ] There was no next time. There was not enough grief. This time he would or let’s not, I mean. You can only exhaust someone. Grace and forgiveness so many times, or so I thought.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:09:17,929 ] And like I said. started looking for an abortion and quickly found out about. About medication abortion.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:09:25,410 ] As a young person, I had casually… heard people talk about as the abortion pill. But I had. really no idea what I would be ingesting. What would happen to my body. What would happen to my baby?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:09:39,160 ] and young girls just think that they will be. Unpregnant, but this is a magic eraser I can take to this big, messy problem. And that is so far from the truth and the reality and the horrors of chemical abortion.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:09:55,890 ] So you felt like your dad would still be upset you had just started talking. How did, at that point, how old was your first child?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:10:03,060 ] He was almost one, and I was 18.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:10:05,940 ] And did they have a good relationship?
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:10:08,440 ] Your dad and your child.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:10:10,890 ] And, yeah, I mean, yes. He loved him. Still, I think he would have preferred that he came later in life.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:10:17,940 ] But sure, loved him and certainly didn’t want any more. Yes. Especially under his roof. And he made that abundantly clear.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:10:23,880 ] Hmm-hmm.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:10:25,530 ] Yeah. Let me ask you this.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:10:28,640 ] Or you practicing birth control?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:10:35,510 ] No, and I think that would have been my dad, that we didn’t have this conversation. But I think that probably would have been my dad.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:10:42,970 ] Hmm-hmm.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:10:43,615 ] Answer. First of all, we don’t talk about it. We don’t talk about it. Therefore, I believe it’s not happening. However, I think his mindset was.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:10:51,960 ] You know, protect yourself and what I wish they had said. From a very early age, prior to even getting pregnant with my first baby, was… Peace. But maybe we don’t have a conversation about. Birth control, maybe we have a conversation about… Self-control. Amen. This is why you wait and why it’s not. Just something you have to abstain from because, to a young person who thinks they know everything, that sounds And impossible.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:11:20,850 ] Exactly, we’re all human. We’re all human and we’re all human. And the reason Christ died for our sins is that we are sinners. We’re human.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:11:28,510 ] When our society has made it all okay.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:11:31,450 ] Yeah. Hey, we’ve got to take a break. We’ve got Rebecca Hagen with us. She is one of the first women in the country to take the abortion reversal pill, and she has a fascinating story, and we’re going to share more of it coming back. It is Pro-Life Radio, and coming up, a governor, a Democratic governor.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:11:50,700 ] who is very pro-choice, very pro-abortion, very pro-death, did something unspeakable just recently. And we’ll share that with you when we come back from the break. More Pro-Life Radio on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:12:06,570 ] And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicki Cherry. Across from me is my handsome husband, Bruce.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:12:13,260 ] And I owe her. I think eight kisses. Oh, way more than that. I think it’s eight. Every week they add up. Well, we have a deal. She gets 12 kisses a day, minimum. And I know I’ve given her four today already. I’m behind, so I’ll have to work on the other eight.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:12:28,240 ] Now he’s counting. Anyway.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:12:31,610 ] It is almost Valentine’s Day.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:12:33,230 ] It’s true. And we got married on Valentine’s Day. Yeah, absolutely.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:12:36,710 ] We may not be able to go back to the beach this Valentine’s Day.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:12:39,190 ] Man, as cold as it is. My goodness.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:12:41,610 ] Just before we went to the break, I talked about a Democratic governor granting clemency. Well, he did something really heinous. This guy is very pro-choice.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:12:51,620 ] He’s campaigned on it. He’s been elected on it numerous times. He’s the Democratic governor, Phil Murphy of New Jersey, and he granted clemency this weekend to a woman who burned her children alive.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:13:02,690 ] He’s campaigned on being very pro-choice. He’s campaigned on, he’s okay with abortion up to birth and after birth. He’s okay with those. He’s campaigned. Well, this week, Murphy, who is no stranger to abortion, and it doesn’t matter, partial birth, whatever, he’s okay with all of that.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:13:23,800 ] So it’s no surprise that one of his final acts before he leaves office, he chose to grant clemency to Maria Dolores Montalvo, a woman from Union Beach, New Jersey. Who was convicted of burning her two young children alive. She was convicted in 1996 felony murder and arson for killing her 18-month-old daughter and her 28-month-old son.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:13:47,440 ] She doused them with gasoline and set them on fire inside her car.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:13:51,660 ] And did it say why? Why did she do it?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:13:53,600 ] It didn’t say why at this point. And it doesn’t matter. No. Because all life matters. All life matters. She received a 100-year prison sentence with parole eligibility in 2054. And the governor, before he left office, granted her clemency.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:14:09,960 ] And we can’t even get our pro-lifers—those who did nothing— inside of them. Abortion clinic, yeah.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:14:17,130 ] Just off they’re arresting pro-life warriors for standing on street corners praying and that’s happening now. It was happening in England, and it’s starting to happen in the United States. So, we’ve got with us Rebecca Hagan, who is a pro-life speaker, activist, and mother, wife, and daughter.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:14:38,040 ] started the process of having a chemical abortion and was one of the first people to use the abortion reversal pill. So, Rebecca, thank you for being with us tonight. And what exactly, we’ve talked about on this show, tell us about chemical abortion.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:14:54,400 ] Sure. So, chemical abortion, like I was saying before the break, is awful. However, what patients are told is that this will be simple, that this will be very natural, it’ll be much like your monthly cycle that you experience as a woman, you know, you’ll have some bleeding, you’ll have some cramping, shouldn’t be too uncomfortable. Even if you are, we’ll send you home with pain medication.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:15:16,459 ] And, again, you can go back to work or school in about 24 hours, and no one ever has to. No. And girls like me think… that things just dissolve.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:15:26,450 ] that their pregnancy disappears. Bye. knowing what I know now and being an older adult. I realized, well, actually, that’s not.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:15:34,250 ] physiologically.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:15:35,930 ] And so what’s kept from them and what was kept from me is that chemical abortion is… a two-step, two-drug process. And you probably mentioned this before, but it. done with two different. drugs or medications, the first called mifepristone or ru486, mm-hmm. And that’s the one. You know, kind of what’s coined the abortion pill. And when it was first legalized, that was all that they used. But the problem was… RU-486 was super successful in aborting the baby or ending the life of the baby, killing the child. But it wasn’t always successful in removing the baby from mom and so that’s dangerous and so somewhere in the early 2000s they added the second drug, which is cytotec or misoprostol. And you’re told, of patients that the first pill will just end your pregnancy. And okay, that doesn’t sound so bad. My pregnancy will end. And then you’re told that. 24 hours later, you would take a second set of four pills, the misoprostol or Cytotex.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:16:38,740 ] And that it would just expel your pregnancy. And you’re kind of like, okay, and you’re rushed, and you’re like, okay. What does that mean? But I’m not really going to think about it until tomorrow.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:16:48,460 ] What was tough for me is that the second drug. is commonly given to women. At 40 weeks gestation. Who? Thank you. Trying to go into labor because it causes their body to… dilate and to contract.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:17:04,290 ] And so these women, you know.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:17:07,210 ] often young. alone, certainly with no medical supervision. are being instructed to go home and to go into their… dorm rooms there. We’ve actually seen reports of this happening on a plane restroom. Thank you. And to send themselves into labor. And as you can imagine, there. Horrified? They’re doubled over in pain. What they see is not at all what they were told they were going to see. They think that their baby’s nothing, that it’s not developed, and here they are. Often looking at a fully formed tiny baby. And in a time where we talk so much about mental health. I can’t think of anything worse for someone than you.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:17:53,220 ] facilitating their own abortion and then being tasked with personally disposing of their own baby. And yet this is where we are.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:18:02,510 ] Thank you.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:18:05,459 ] Ja, jetzt… I know we’ve heard stories of women, girls bringing in their babies.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:18:12,799 ] And, you know, to the pregnancy centers, and I don’t know what to do. You know, I didn’t know it would look like this. I didn’t know I could tell it was my child.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:18:22,790 ] And some have walked into hospital emergency rooms with aid.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:18:28,810 ] Baggy and I didn’t know what to do with this.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:18:33,320 ] And, um, yeah.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:18:38,100 ] So, okay, so you took the first pill.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:18:42,960 ] Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:18:43,345 ] And then at some point you changed your mind? What led to you changing your mind? What was that like?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:18:51,610 ] Yeah, so the entire time I was… Really telling myself it’s mind over matter. God will forgive me.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:01,120 ] You do what you got to do. You have to be responsible. Not really thinking. Everything is happening very fast. Women are told. Make this decision today. Because once you’re a certain amount of weeks, the decision will be taken away from you. And so everything is rushed.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:15,680 ] And then, after taking the first abortion pill, I’m being sent away, you know, less than five minutes later.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:19:23,210 ] Hmm-hmm.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:24,050 ] It actually happened in my car while still at the abortion clinic in their parking lot. That everything slowed down.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:32,330 ] And I saw it.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:34,460 ] What? Did I just?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:37,790 ] Do.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:39,250 ] And sometimes I describe it as. A foggy lens. That cleared and I’m now looking at my decision, saying, ‘This is not me.’ I’m a Christian. I’ve been in church multiple times a week since the day I was born.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:54,040 ] I don’t even think I believe in abortion.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:19:56,350 ] What if my dad could have forgiven me? What if this… could have worked, and then I started. Frantically asking kind of myself out loud. You know, ‘Is it too late?’ and ‘Have my baby already?’ And have my pregnancy already ended so it was quick and it often is quick for these women. I talked to many of them around the nation. All the time and they have very similar experiences because after you leave the abortion clinic or after you order these pills. They go radio silent. And you’re left alone. And now.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:20:29,730 ] The only person to blame is yourself. And that’s really difficult and uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:20:36,530 ] To sit with and so, in this uncomfortable moment, is when regret often kicks in and women start searching for another way or a way out.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:20:45,030 ] I know.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:20:46,460 ] I know. At, um… In Maitland, they have an abortion center. And right next door is a pregnancy center. And we go there a few times and hold signs and pray and sing. And they share the same driveway.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:21:04,540 ] And so, so many times, women and girls go in. Have the pill and when they pull out of the driveway, they pull down that shared driveway. So, on the side of the pregnancy center, is signs several signs and they all say, ‘It’s not too late Ask us about the abortion reversal bill.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:21:23,880 ] Hmm-hmm.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:21:25,400 ] So.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:21:27,050 ] You mentioned, after you took the pill, you had the ‘epiphany’ if you will in your car.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:21:34,650 ] And.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:21:36,860 ] But you said they went radio silent. I mean, did you reach back out to the pregnancy center or the abortion center, if I will, and say, ‘Hey, I think I’ve made a mistake’ and they didn’t answer your questions? Or can you elaborate on that ‘radio silent’ part?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:21:51,910 ] Yes, so the whole process is designed to ask, ‘Are you… Start the process?’ Then it was in their clinic, although that is optional now because so many women are doing this telehealth and virtually. All right. You know, you’re— by design, not really reconnecting with them. And their job is done. And so it was brief, and they gave you what you asked for, and then… They’re not following up to ask for. Counseling services, emotional support services, how you’re doing— that’s not in there. Model of care. They’re nothing like our pregnancy centers, who check in with our women. And so. Prior to taking the abortion pill in about a 60-second pitch. As she’s explaining the way that this would work. The nurse told me flat out, once you do this, there will be no going back. So are you sure you want to do this? And I said, yeah. And then she gave me paperwork that I still have, actually. That says you know if you were to stop this. Here are the risks that would be associated, including: physical and mental abnormalities, fetal anomalies that she would cause.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:22:58,510 ] Thank you. Once you start this, there’s no going back. And so. I knew I couldn’t walk back in their doors. They would have thought I was crazy. And at the time I cared clearly so much about what people thought.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:23:13,160 ] Well, and we don’t want to admit that it is an emotional thing, and it is a hard choice. And why it is a hard choice is because it’s your child.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:23:21,670 ] Yeah. And deep down inside, in our hearts, we know it’s wrong.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:23:25,769 ] And Rebecca, you may not know this. I’ve shared this on the show numerous times. I participated in the abortion of two of my own children.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:23:33,630 ] Okay.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:23:34,190 ] And each time I knew it was wrong, but I justified it in my mind. It’s not the right time for us to have a baby. I’m not far enough along in my career. We don’t make enough money.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:23:43,860 ] And society is just pushing that.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:23:45,620 ] It’s just pushing that. And so you justify it. But deep down inside, you know it’s wrong. Hey, we’re up against another break. It’s Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night, and we need your help to keep this ministry on the air. And we’ll have details on how you can do that, how you can help us.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:24:00,610 ] We thank you for that. That’s coming up. Also, the pro-life president, Donald Trump, has done it again, and we’ll tell you more about that coming back. We’re on with Rebecca Hagan, and this is Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:24:16,860 ] And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicki Cherry. Across from me is my handsome husband, Bruce. And online with us is Rebecca Hagan. Rebecca is one of the first people that took the abortion reversal pill.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:24:30,350 ] Mm-hmm.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:24:30,735 ] And she’s on tonight telling us her story.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:24:33,200 ] Yeah. And as I teased just before we went to break, the most pro-life president we’ve had in my lifetime, maybe in the history of this country, Donald Trump has expanded protections against U. S. taxpayer funding for abortions overseas.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:24:49,700 ] We were funding abortions in other countries.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:24:54,150 ] How evil is that?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:24:56,420 ] So issuing sweeping new restrictions that pro-life advocates say will end all direct and indirect support of foreign abortion providers, along with it curbs on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives and gender ideology programs. So I wonder how many men go into abortion clinics and want the I mean…
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:25:17,210 ] Want the abortion pill reversal?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:25:18,330 ] The abortion pill reversal, yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that’s terrible. Anyway. All right, so, Rebecca, pardon me. I digress. Rebecca Hagan, Rebecca, you were telling us about the chemical abortion. You took the pill, and then you instantly regretted it. How did you find the reversal pill? How did that come about?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:25:36,060 ] So when I was. Still in the parking lot of this abortion clinic, had this. Literal come to jesus moment. I’m crying, I’m praying, I feel duped by Satan. Like I had made the worst mistake of my life. After praying, because that was a really important part of this, I think. I turn to my phone because, let’s face it, that’s kind of where we all go. And I started typing in. anything I could think of and the word ‘abortion pill reversal’ didn’t come to mind. This was 2013, it was not talked about at all. And so all I could think to type was, you know, I. I took the first abortion pill. I don’t want to take the second. I’ve started a medication abortion and I don’t. I want to finish it. And I was shocked to realize that, oh, it’s not just me. That this has been happening for 13 years at that point because that’s how long abortion, medication abortion had been available in the country.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:26:28,420 ] Hmm-hmm.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:26:28,760 ] And grow just. Like myself, I’ve been turning to Google saying, ‘I messed up.’ This is grief too hard to sit with. And between the first and second, drugs. They regretted it and wanted a way out. And finally, after searching for what felt like forever, I found a… an advertisement, much like Vicki, the ad. That you described outside of the pregnancy center locally? That steers us. driveway with your local abortion provider. And it was brief. It’s had something to the effect of, you know, if you started a medication abortion, you’ve taken the first pill.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:04,060 ] And not the second set.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:06,090 ] And having regret, you can call us. And I remember thinking.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:11,370 ] What are they going to do for me? Bye-bye.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:15,170 ] Are they going to yell at me?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:17,240 ] Pray for me. Is this going to be? Somebody that asks for compensation, am I going to have to give my credit card information?
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:25,040 ] What what could possibly come of this? I had this little thought in the back of my mind that said, ‘What’s the worst that could happen?’ You’re already sitting here in your lowest moment, aborting your baby.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:27:35,820 ] Thank you.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:36,040 ] You could hang up if this goes bad. And so I called.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:39,530 ] The hotline number. And I was actually. I mean, it’s to me calling a pregnancy center. At the time, I had never heard of that. Grub. Knowing the Lord, going to church. My church didn’t support a pregnancy center. I had no idea. And a nurse answered.
SPEAKER_2
[ 00:27:54,960 ] And, um, she talked me off of a ledge. She was so kind and so patient.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:28:00,780 ] And she didn’t rush to judgment; she didn’t condemn me; she didn’t shame me. She just said, ‘You know How did you get here? What? What did they give you? Read me your paperwork. Do you know anything about what you’ve taken? Do you know that your first pill that you already ingested— the baby of progesterone? Did they tell you that? I’m like. No. Did they tell you that tomorrow, you know, the second set? You will contract. You will dilate. You know, no, and so now I’m scared.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:28:31,190 ] Just really wanting to save my baby.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:28:34,390 ] He says, ‘You know.’ You took a pill to deprive your body, your baby, of progesterone.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:28:40,220 ] She kind of thought and she said, ‘What if we just foot. progesterone. back into your body?’ And I thought. Without me. That makes sense. I mean, I have no medical background. Okay, you’re not saying something far-fetched or crazy.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:28:55,490 ] She said, ‘You can look it up. The medical industry has been giving progesterone to women to sustain pregnancies who have a chance of miscarrying for decades.’ Go ahead and look it up so you know I’m not telling you anything.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:09,830 ] Foolish. She said, ‘I think we’ve helped.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:13,460 ] five women so far.’
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:29:15,110 ] Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:15,390 ] Five women. Oh, no. You know, you want odds that are better than that.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:22,290 ] But she said of those five that were successful, they were born healthy. No fetal anomalies. And no danger to mom. Will you let us try to find you a doctor? And I said, yes, absolutely. I would move heaven and earth to try to save this baby and undo my mistake. And. She went to work.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:41,660 ] Thank you.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:42,990 ] Far and wide, and she found a provider connected me with my local Pregnancy center.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:48,480 ] In a position who was willing to see me, I was. That physician’s first patient, but he went on to do several more.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:29:54,210 ] Thank you.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:29:54,690 ] And within… probably 15 hours. of taking that first step. Abortion pill, the progesterone antagonist. I was sitting in his office. With a pregnancy center in my corner. Getting the progesterone that I needed to try to save my baby.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:30:09,520 ] Mm.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:30:11,120 ] Bye. Bye.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:30:14,130 ] Amazing.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:30:16,690 ] So that time there was only five other women. So that would be scary because you They had just told you at the abortion clinic that… your baby would have it.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:30:26,610 ] At the abortion club, they told her there was no, what they really told her was there’s no turning back.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:30:31,100 ] Right. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:30:33,080 ] Tchau. Wow.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:30:34,650 ] And they still tell women that. All these years later, I talk to girls and they’re saying, well, I called the abortion provider and they’re saying that. What you’re telling me or what I’m reading about abortion power reversal is… Ludacris. And I have to tell them, I know. I’m sorry. I’m sorry that the people you trusted— lying to you— and that makes you wonder.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:30:53,520 ] I mean, just how truly evil this is. They’ve already gotten their payment.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:30:58,820 ] Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:31:00,080 ] They’ve already provided the service they said they were going to provide. They want you to believe that there’s no saving the day.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:31:05,380 ] And they don’t want to be held responsible, if something, you know, I think. And when you were talking earlier, Rebecca, about Google and your Google search, now it’s coming out that they can suppress this information. So that’s another reason why it may not have been. I’m sure they were doing it then, but even more so now. I’m sure it’s harder. It’s hard for women to find that as easily as you would find an abortion clinic.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:31:30,740 ] Mm-hmm.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:31:31,180 ] You know, because they do. They suppress that information. Bye.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:31:36,000 ] So go ahead and continue, Rebecca.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:31:40,850 ] So they put me on a heavy dose of progesterone. Like I said, it’s a protocol that’s similar to women. who have a history of miscarriage because of progesterone. Levels drop. and your progesterone levels drop dangerously low. to where it can’t sustain a pregnancy when you take the abortion pill. I was given progesterone to counteract that. I stayed on it for… several weeks into my second trimester, I think.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:32:05,580 ] and the abortion provider.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:32:07,630 ] I eventually called them and let them know. And they said, ‘This will not work.’ and if this works, probably going to have a baby born with an anomaly. And there was no, let us know what happened. Good luck. And to Bruce’s point, my thought was… Why are you being so mean? I’ve already paid you. I’ve already left your… Clinic, I didn’t even write a bad Yelp review on you. Why are you being so… I just didn’t get it because an organization I had trusted with my whole life. Had. In a matter of days, turned their back on me.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:32:41,140 ] Thank you.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:32:42,020 ] Wanted me to finish where I had started there so that I wasn’t. Maybe a liability or a problem.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:32:46,840 ] Yeah. Now, when you went to the care provider that the pregnancy center gave you, were you charged? Did they help you? What happened there?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:32:58,050 ] No, I mean… our pregnancy centers are God’s blessing to women. You know, unlike with the abortion.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:33:06,440 ] I had to pay for. Nothing? None of these here? That I Received. And. You know, this nurse stayed on the phone with me.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:33:15,730 ] Four hours.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:33:17,560 ] Texted me, was willing to answer my calls in the middle of the night. Because there was. Just fear that I wouldn’t find a doctor, or fear that I was making the wrong decision, or… You know, and. I’m not. I’m not paying her. It wasn’t a nurse chat service that I was invoiced for.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:33:34,230 ] And they’re doing this for nothing. Now, at this point, did your parents know what was going on? Did you share this with them? Were you still concerned?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:33:44,670 ] So my plan was to tell them I was pregnant. Maybe not mention the abortion. Part of the story. And a doctor had called my home, thinking it was my… cell phone. And left a message. Thing I know you want to make an appointment. This is my routine. Regular OB who I would need to see. Eventually. I understand you’re pregnant again. Oh.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:34:10,219 ] Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:12,440 ] Well, I was like, you know what I’m going to say. My dad got the voicemail. Of course. Of course.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:19,770 ] And so the ability to tell my parents myself was kind of taken from me. However, when he came to me and… was very angry.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:28,500 ] Raising his voice. saying, you know, you did it again. I warned you. Pack your bags. You guys are out. That’s when I felt like I had to tell him. Because I thought maybe he would have mercy on me. Bye-bye.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:41,139 ] Dad, that’s not it.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:42,830 ] And he said. What more could there possibly be unless you’re going to tell me that you’re carrying twins?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:49,740 ] Bye-bye. I said, you know, no, it’s not twins. I started an abortion. I was so scared you were going to disown me. I took the first abortion pill. I’m having second thoughts.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:34:58,540 ] Trying to undo this, and my dad was— I mean, like most parents, he had no idea. Thank you. young adult, could be upstairs.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:35:09,340 ] Aborting his grandchild in his house. While he slept, and that really shook him.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:35:15,310 ] Mmm. Was that a changing moment for him?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:35:19,399 ] Yes, absolutely. And you know, he’s not a real— but I definitely think that that moment changed our entire relationship.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:35:26,580 ] Okay, well, we want to hear more about that coming back. We’ve got a break right now. We’re on with Rebecca Hagan, who is one of the first women in America to take the abortion reversal pill. And we’ll continue with her story and more Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night coming up on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer, streaming on TheAnswerOrlando. com.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:35:49,800 ] And we’re back on a Sunday night, a cold Sunday night. So everybody snuggle up. And we thank you for getting close to the radio tonight. It’s Pro-Life Radio. Vicki Cherry across. Me, I’m Bruce Cherry, and we have Rebecca Hagans on with us. She’s one of the first women, in fact, I think the sixth woman in the United States to take the abortion the abortion reversal pill. It was really kind of experimental at the time, so uh, but it was successful. We thank her for doing that. We thank her for joining us here tonight, and uh, Rebecca?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:36:20,900 ] The turning point in your relationship with your dad. Tell us about that.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:36:24,770 ] Yeah. As soon as he found out that unintentionally. Who’s… words or my fear of him.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:36:33,780 ] Would lead me to.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:36:36,660 ] Have an abortion. Something we never talked about, but clearly he felt like I shouldn’t have done.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:36:42,450 ] I think it just broke him. And. From that moment on. Well, again, he wished I wasn’t pregnant. He realized what a vulnerable state I was in. And. They were. Helpful, my parents, they were. Praying. They were scared for me. They were scared for this baby and wanting things to work out in our favor for the baby to live. Me to be healthy. So I think he knew in that time that he couldn’t. He couldn’t be harsh. I was just so fragile.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:37:10,460 ] Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:11,020 ] And. It ended up.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:13,250 ] really mending our relationship. Not that we had a bad one.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:37:15,980 ] Bye.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:16,830 ] I didn’t understand him. He didn’t really understand me. End.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:21,210 ] You know, here we are all these years later, and I love my dad so much. The power of Christ. Amen.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:37:26,050 ] And I’m sure he was just an elated grandfather.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:30,210 ] Yes, especially because I have all sisters. And I brought the only boys into the family.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:37:38,680 ] Oh, the first boys. All right.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:41,300 ] And how old are your children now?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:37:44,840 ] So my oldest is. 14 and this baby, which I think we’re going to get to survive. And was born perfectly healthy later that year. And later this year, he will turn 13. Wow. Incredible. Both of those two are taller than me.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:38:03,940 ] Thank you. You know?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:38:06,210 ] And are either of them named after your dad?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:38:10,640 ] Actually, my first has his first name is his middle name. So, yeah. And my second has his brother’s name as his middle name. So, yeah, there was a nod to his family in there for sure.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:38:20,550 ] Nice. Nice.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:38:22,200 ] And we went on to have two more children. They’re five and six.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:38:26,150 ] Bye now. Not perfect. There have been messy parts, but… I look.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:38:31,310 ] especially at… Zachariah, my middle, was born because of abortion pill reversal who was saved. And I think, oh, my goodness, what? The world almost missed out on. Had I gone through with that abortion, had it been successful. Had no one picked up the phone and helped me.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:38:47,140 ] I just. Yeah. Imagine a world without him.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:38:51,560 ] You know, I think people in their mind so many times, and I’ve heard people say this, well, we’ll just have that baby later. And they don’t really think that through because no.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:39:01,570 ] You won’t have that baby later. You may have a baby. You’ll have a baby later.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:39:04,810 ] And, you know, it’s kind of, I think, another of Satan’s lies, because you look at all your kids. And I also have four kids. I don’t know how to miscarriage. I have lots of foster kids, but they’re all different. We know that the child that did end up in an abortion would have been a different child than the ones that so many families already have.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:39:27,370 ] All the lies that Satan throws at us, but the grace of God.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:39:31,620 ] Hmm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:39:34,830 ] So, Rebecca, we’ve talked a lot about a lot of different subjects, and I’m so happy that your dad came around you. That was healed, and that we heard that part of your story. What else? We only have like eight more minutes of the segment. And is there anything that’s burning in your heart that you feel like our listeners need to? to hear?
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:39:55,860 ] Oh, goodness, we’ve covered so much, and I’m so grateful that you’re willing to share about all of this.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:40:01,340 ] Sometimes it’s tough for life. topics, but this one. Thank you.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:40:05,640 ] It’s pressing and it’s relevant because chemical abortion is on the rise and I think. You know, when I picture your listeners, many of them might be Karen? or grandparents or maybe teachers that have got some influence or access to teenagers or young adults who are making these decisions.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:40:25,100 ] What I wish was that someone had told my parents, and I think my parents would admit this. Is that? This starts at home. And I know it feels… scary to bring up conversations like unplanned pregnancies. Sex and abortion. Awkward. Especially if we didn’t get ahead of it, and now we’re approaching it. Kind of late and yet— Thank you. Quickest way to end up in one of these situations, I think. Assuming it won’t happen to you. Assuming that your kids know better. And… So realizing that it starts at home the same way we have.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:41:01,030 ] Conversations about. Drinking and Throg. And. You know, drinking and driving in particular. My parents were really great at always telling me. I don’t want you to dream. I never want you to get drunk. But goodness gracious, if you end up at a party and that’s the situation. Call us. We’re not gonna yell at you. We’re not gonna judge you. We’re just gonna pick you up. And I feel like. They could have done the same thing with an unplanned pregnancy. I don’t want you engaging in premarital sex. It’s not good for you. It’s not good for your spirit, your body.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:41:33,560 ] But if it happens, and if you get pregnant, please don’t make any rash decisions. Please call us, and we’re not going to judge you.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:41:40,460 ] Walk this route. with you.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:41:44,460 ] I think it’s a powerful way for parents to really become the authority on these tests.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:41:50,930 ] I think we think— if it’s not brought up, it’s not going to happen. You know, if it’s hidden, we don’t see it, just like a baby in the womb. And I think that’s what makes it easier.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:42:00,830 ] There’s a lot of things also, like we— we bury our heads in the sand, we don’t want to address that. I will tell you— with my two sons, with Burkus and Joshua, God blessed my ex-wife and I to have two healthy sons, uh, even after we had aborted two, and um, I had the conversation with them when they were in high school. I don’t want you to drink. I don’t want you to drink, but if you find yourself at a party, you’re not to drive home. You’re not to get in a car with someone who’s drinking. Call me. No questions asked. I will come and get you. And I lived up to that. In fact, I never had to do it with my oldest, but his little brother, one night, did go out and I had to go get him. And I had to be true to my word.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:42:43,030 ] And you couldn’t yell. And couldn’t yell. And everyone reminded me, you’ve always said, ‘Yes, yeah, I know.’ And I went and got him. I brought him home.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:42:50,110 ] And how much more important is a life?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:42:51,910 ] You know. Your grandchild. But I did not have the conversation with him until much later about ‘don’t.’ ‘Don’t if you get someone pregnant, don’t abort the baby, don’t try and try and abstain from that activity until you’re married.’
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:43:06,700 ] But I’m a guy. I know guys. And we’re weak. And as human beings, we’re weak. And so those things happen. I tell them, don’t. Make an unborn child pay for your sins.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:43:19,460 ] And again, going back to our churches. I know, Rebecca, you said it starts at home, and I do believe that. I think the next place is a church, our pastors, our leaders.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:43:30,490 ] They need to help the parents help the kids. Talk about the hard stuff.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:43:36,750 ] I know our church, and it was funny because I had two teenagers and two younger children, and I taught them as they grew in church, and we did have a class on that. Now, we didn’t so much preach it from the pulpit, but we did have a class on your development.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:43:53,580 ] You know, what could happen if you engage. So they knew. But. Like Bruce said. We have to be talking about this. We can’t just keep it hidden.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:44:04,310 ] No. No, it has to be addressed.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:44:08,080 ] We just, we do. We have to address it. It’s in the Bible. We have to address it. Raise your children in the admonition of the Lord. That means in all things. And so, yeah, those are things we have to address. And pastors, if you’re pastoring your flock, you have to address these things with your flock. You must.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:44:25,420 ] And there are pastors out there, and we’ve met them, that no, we won’t infringe on a woman’s right to her own body. It’s not her body. There’s another body inside her body.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:44:34,460 ] Mm-hmm. It’s a temporary, temporary problem. Yeah. Or blessing, whichever way you look at it.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:44:40,880 ] It’s never a problem. It’s a blessing.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:44:42,720 ] They think it’s a problem. Yeah. But yes.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:44:44,840 ] But it’s a blessing.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:44:45,970 ] So, Rebecca, we have about three minutes. Um, anything else that you want to share? I’d like you to share how people can get a hold of you, more about your story— That kind of thing.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:44:55,780 ] And we will put a link to Rebecca’s website on the Pro-Life Radio website as well.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:45:02,780 ] I echo everything that you’ve said. And if parents are feeling inadequate. Partner with your local pregnancy center, they’re more than willing to take youth groups, bible studies, and even individual school groups. homeschool group in and you could say, ‘Hey, this may never happen to you, but you may know someone who ends up in a situation.’ Here’s what this center does. I mean, they’re just. Fantastic. As far as people getting a hold of me, I do have a website that you’re going to link. Simple. It’s Rebecca Hagan. You can find… of my speaking. on there and then if anybody is listening to this And. know someone. Maybe in the future you hear a story where someone has taken the first abortion pill. I think it’s really great. Just know that that website is AbortionPillReversal. com still exists. Today. Nurses answer it. Thank you. 24/7 bilingual and the same help that was successful to me. Over 10 years ago is even more accessible. People now and you could be the extension, the bridge to help someone get there.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:46:03,060 ] Give us that website again.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:46:05,350 ] It’s abortionpillreversal. com.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:46:08,190 ] Okay.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:46:09,550 ] And you better spell out your name for your website. Because it’s different than a lot of Rebecca’s.
SPEAKER_3
[ 00:46:15,060 ] That is a good point. It is Rebecca, R-E-B-E-K-A-N. A-A-Hagan, H-A-G-A-N. End. dot org.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:46:26,240 ] Rebecca Hagan. She is a speaker, a pro-life warrior, a mom, a wife, a daughter, a granddaughter, and any of the pro-life…
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:46:33,520 ] And Zachariah, who’s… You said he’s 13 or he will be 13? He’ll be 13 in October. How awesome is that, that he is a teenager now?
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:46:43,120 ] So technically, I guess he’s the sixth. The first sixth baby saved by the abortion pill reversal process. If you’re listening to the show tonight and you’re, we know that several of the ministries are. Downtown and central Florida listen to pro-life radio. Rebecca is a speaker and she’s been key in in raising funds and donations for numerous ministries and organizations around the country. So reach out to Rebecca and make sure you get her.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:47:14,350 ] Next week, we have a show for you that my wife will not let me call a pro-life smackdown, so I won’t. It is a debate.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:47:21,050 ] Bruce Cherry, you did it anyway.
SPEAKER_0
[ 00:47:22,980 ] It is a debate. Coming up next Sunday night, it’s a conversation, but in a debate fashion. We will have from Florida Right to Life, Linda Bell on with us, and John Mishner, pro-life author, activist, and speaker, and pastor. Should women and should should there be criminal charges rather for abortion?
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:47:46,100 ] legalization.
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[ 00:47:47,950 ] Legalization? Legalization?
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[ 00:47:49,840 ] Should we make it illegal or not?
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[ 00:47:52,100 ] Okay, should it be illegal? What?
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:47:55,210 ] Let’s start over there. Or back just a little.
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[ 00:47:57,110 ] Dave, let’s edit that. Take it from here.
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[ 00:48:00,490 ] Next week on the show, we’ll have a conversation about whether or not abortion should be made illegal, criminal.
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[ 00:48:09,570 ] Okay. We’ll have Linda Bell from Florida Right to Life. And we will have also John Mishner, author of Avoiding the Dark Side of the Pro-Life Movement. And he’s also a pastor and speaker, activist.
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[ 00:48:23,980 ] They’re going to be discussing whether or not criminal charges should be filed in abortion.
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[ 00:48:29,790 ] We’ll talk about that next week on Pro-Life Radio. Thank you for joining us tonight. My lovely wife, Vicki Cherry, our guest, Rebecca Hagan. I’m Bruce Cherry. We thank you. Dave DeRica in the studio, our producer. Thank you all. Have a good night. Stay warm, and God bless. This is Pro-Life Radio on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer.
Bruce Cherry
[ 00:48:48,520 ] Amen.