Prolife Advocate Court Boice, State Legislator in Oregon, and Wife Britt Ivy Court

Prolife Advocate Court Boice, State Legistator in Oregon, and Wife Britt Ivy Court

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Speaker: Preserving the sanctity of life in Florida, a loud voice for the unborn. This is Pro-Life Radio. With your hosts, Vicki

Speaker: and Bruce Cherry, and welcome to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night, Thanksgiving weekend. And for those of you who have come out of the Turkey coma.

Speaker: Like myself and, uh, hope you had a great and joyous Thanksgiving. I know we did.

Court Boice: We did. You know, um, I ate so many appetizers. I couldn’t hardly eat the dinner though. Like what? So we have lots of leftovers anyway.

Speaker: Yes, yes, we do. Turkey, everything.

Court Boice: And we went to our daughter’s and in today she made waffle stuffing.

Court Boice: With all the stuff on top. Waffle

Speaker: stuffed with stuff, stuff, waffles, stuffing waffles. Made out of stuffing. Yes. I How awesome. Yeah. I wanna find out how that tasted. We’ll to try it. Yeah. We’ll have to. Hey, we’ve got two great guests with us, uh, tonight on Pro-Life Radio. Uh, Brit, Ivy Boce Pro-Life Warrior, uh, abolitionist and has a, has a great ministry.

Speaker: She’s [00:01:00] also the chief of staff for her husband, who is an Oregon state legislator. Uh, court. Boce, they’re both pro-life. They are behind enemy lines. We’ll talk about that coming up here in a bit, but, uh, we want to, we want to just kind of chat with them and fellowship and find out what’s going on in Oregon.

Speaker: And, but before we do, we always start Pro-Life Radio with Jeremiah one, five and prayer.

Court Boice: Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you before you were born. I sanctified you. I ordained you a prophet to the nations.

Speaker: Dear Heavenly Father, we come to you once again and we ask you to bless this show. Bless all who hear it and let us be fruitful.

Speaker: Changing hearts and changing minds, sharing truth and educating those, there are so many out there who feel they, they have no alternative. They might find themselves in a, in a pregnancy situation, and they, they’ve been led to believe that abortion is the only answer, and it’s not. It’s not, it’s not any kind of answer.

Speaker: It’s murder. And we need to educate them on [00:02:00] that. We need to show that all life. It’s precious and none of us has a right to disqualify a life that you have ordained to be. God, thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for our guests. We pray for blessings upon them, and we thank you for this evening to share this show and we ask for your blessings in the name of your precious son, Jesus Christ.

Speaker: Amen. Amen. Alright, Brit and court, how are you? Two.

Court Boice: Great. Thank you Bruce and Vicky for having us on. Hello to all of our friends in Florida, and the work you’re doing keeps us inspired and, uh, thank you very much for that prayer, uh, both of you. Um, again, that’s, uh, that motivates us to do the hard work and to understand that being behind the enemy alliance really isn’t much of a sacrifice.

Court Boice: Um, Oregon is very blue and uhhmm. We just, uh, get our strength and courage and humility from the Lord.

Speaker: Wow. Amen. So, court, [00:03:00] the, I’m gonna start with you. You’re in the legislature. What kind of battles are going on out there to protect life? Are are there any battles going on? I mean, I, I know you’re a warrior, but tell us about what’s happening in the, in the Oregon legislature,

Court Boice: we’re actually even Bruce in a super minority now in both the House and the Senate.

Court Boice: Um, everything is geared towards, uh, this is healthcare. Mm-hmm. Um, ignoring the rights of a human being, you know, a heartbeat to start sometimes six or seven weeks. And so, uh, the 23 session especially was a major battle. I worked with 11 women and, uh, 12, uh, republican conservative, pro-life legislators that give it their all.

Court Boice: And yet, uh, Oregon actually. As tragic as it is, has the most liberal abortion laws and people, Bruce and Vick even come from outside of our state to get free abortions. Mm-hmm. And every time God sheds major tears and it’s, [00:04:00] uh, it keeps us focused on a battle before us and, uh, you know, we’ll just never back down from that.

Court Boice: Wow.

Speaker: So you, you mentioned that you have the most liberal abortion loss out there. Tell us a little bit about that. If you can.

Court Boice: Well, sure it’s partial birth abortion. Um, you know, when, when a baby’s breathing oxygen, uh, and the human being, and it is what difference it make if it’s getting the oxygen outside the womb or inside the womb, man.

Court Boice: So, you know, as we just move more and more towards a godless society, people rationalize the decision to kill the unborn. And, uh, where I come from. Uh, the people I run with, it is, it is murder. There’s just no two ways around it. It’s not overstating it. Those, uh, those precious babies have to have someone stand up for them, and that’s what we do.

Court Boice: And, um, it’s just, uh, it’s just, it is just part of the good fight, good fights that we [00:05:00] have to do.

Court Boice: I know, I think it is really hard. It’s hard for me to understand how people can look past the baby toes, the baby feet and think that it’s okay. It’s just unfathomable. I, I just don’t understand it. I, I guess they’re blocked.

Court Boice: They’re, you know, Bruce likes to say,

Speaker: well, as I, as I, I point out a lot that, you know, and one of our prayers is that our, our brothers and sisters here in this country have the scales removed from their eyes so that they can see truth.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: Because a lot of them just don’t understand that it is a human being, that it is a baby, that it is alive, and they out of convenience, out of fear, out of selfishness.

Speaker: They make that choice to. Disqualify that life to destroy that life, to end that life. So, um, bless you for, because I, I spent some time and both of us, Vicki and I both have spent some time in politics here in Florida, and I know what a battle it is in a [00:06:00] conservative mm-hmm. Red state. Mm-hmm. So in a blue state.

Speaker: Wow. It’s, uh, yeah. Bruce

Court Boice: was told several times, too much Jesus and too much pro-life.

Speaker: Yeah. And, and I just told him, and Bruce

Court Boice: was the, uh, chair for the Seminole County.

Speaker: Yeah. I was the chair for the Seminole County Republican part. Oh, wow. And, and I just told him, I said, I don’t understand that. I, I, I don’t get, you can’t have too much pro-life and too much Jesus.

Court Boice: Amen.

Speaker: You know?

Court Boice: Amen.

Speaker: So, hey, God gave us conscience. Yes. Yes he did. And he put us in service. And so I’d much rather disappoint every person around me. Then disappoint God. Mm-hmm. Amen. Brit, tell us about your ministry, um, about the Heart Foundation because you work with women who have been through abortion, correct?

Britt Ivy: Absolutely. And the Heart Life Foundation was founded on. [00:07:00] Principles that the world tells women there are no consequences to abortion. Mm-hmm. And basically, it even starts in schools at a very young age. And the world says, of course, like, like court just mentioned. Um, that babies, uh, he said that people don’t understand necessarily, and then he referred to the conscience.

Britt Ivy: I think everybody kind of understands at some point in their conscience, in their spirit that this is wrong. Uh, however, the world is so strong and they spend, you know, billions, probably trillions at this point. They’ve spent over the decades of. Educating, quote, educating as al also court referred to as, uh, healthcare abortion is somehow part of healthcare, which is the furthest thing from the truth.

Britt Ivy: So for me, I learned, uh, after 20, 30 years, which most people [00:08:00] learned decades after the decision to end a life, that there is a documented, scientifically proven. A set of consequences and they read like this, Bruce and Vicky, self-sabotage, eating disorders, picking abusive relationships, dysfunctional relationships, addiction, alcoholism, suicidal thinking.

Britt Ivy: All of that is a package. That no matter what the world tells you, every woman who’s who’s had an abortion, whether they have submerged it or recognized it, that is operating in their lives most of the time subconsciously. So I work with the realization. One of my mentors says, if you can see it, you can free it.

Britt Ivy: So we work on bringing the consciousness and awareness to women. To go ahead and face that. And then I have a course online called Path to Thrive, and [00:09:00] it’s PATH for post-abortion Trauma Healing to Thrive. And the reason the number two in there healing is there is because I say we’re going from the 1.0 woman to the 2.0 woman because you really can have a second life if you’re willing to just.

Britt Ivy: Face the fact that there were consequences and most of us have been spiraling around for decades, not realizing why. Life wasn’t working as planned. I made the horrible decision in college. Of course you get, uh, to college and one of the first things there is Planned Parenthood booth with free contraceptive.

Britt Ivy: So, um, I speak from experience. There are a lot of people out there that speak from, oh no, this is terrible, and they’re wonderful as well. And I also find that having gone through the experience myself. I am able to minister to women in a particular way. When God told me he was going to have me do this for the rest of my life, he and I had a [00:10:00] little discussion about that.

Britt Ivy: I said, oh, I’m gonna go talk about my abortion all over the world. And he said, oh yeah. I said, I don’t think so. And he said, oh yeah. And it was a little back and forth and here, here we are doing it and, and proud to be doing so,

Speaker: you know, I, um. Uh, I, I think, first off, thank you for sharing that. And, um, I’ve pointed out numerous times on this show, and I think anybody that knows us knows my story, but I’ll, I’ll share it with you.

Speaker: Um, I too participated in the abortion of two of my own children, um, before my walk with the Lord. Um, I was scared. I was selfish. Um, it was inconvenient for, for me to be a dad at that time. And, um. I didn’t stand up and do the right thing, and I should have, and because of that, um, I’ve asked for God’s forgiveness.

Speaker: I’ve received that forgiveness. God blessed my former wife and I to, uh, to have two healthy sons that I love dearly. They’re grown men [00:11:00] and I’ve counseled them on not going down the path that I’ve gone down. Um, as to whether or not that counseling has, has taken hold, I can’t say for sure. Only time will tell, but, um.

Speaker: Yeah. Uh, so I, I thank you for sharing that. You know, we touched on the word healthcare, how they want everybody to believe it’s healthcare and, um, the definition of healthcare. Is the exact opposite of what abortion is and when we come back, do no harm. Well, that’s, that’s part of their, their, yeah. Their Hippocratic Oath.

Speaker: And I see why it’s Hippocratic, ’cause they’re being hypocrites. Um, when we come back, I’ll share with you what Webster’s Dictionary says about healthcare and how abortion is not part of that. We’re up against a break. We’ll be right back with another segment of Pro-Life Radio with our guests. Uh, court and Ivy, Brit, Ivy Boce of Oregon and we’ll be right back with more Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night on AM nine 50 FM 94.9.[00:12:00]

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Court Boice: and welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening right after Thanksgiving. We are so glad that you guys are all tuned in and listening. I’m sure you have all kinds of things to be grateful for. Online with us, we have Britt Ivy Boyce and her husband court. They uh, he is a legislator in Oregon and she is his chief of staff and they have all kinds of interesting things and we’re just.

Court Boice: Upset [00:13:00] that it’s only gonna be for the first two segments. And then we have another guest coming on. But, uh, they have so much, but we will have them back on again soon. So, um, and make sure that you have the information you need to get onto their websites and, and contact them if you, if you want to, if you need to.

Court Boice: And, and

Speaker: we’ll give them that information. Uh, court’s site is, I can’t read my own writing. Well look on

Court Boice: it. They can

Speaker: court. Will you give us your website? Hey, you

Court Boice: were doing really good until then, but thank you. Court voice is like voice only with a B Court voice for oregon.com. Thank you, Bruce. There you go.

Court Boice: And by the way, um. All the mistakes we’ve made in the past, as soon as we’ve committed, God has forgiven it. Mm-hmm. Forgiven us and buried it in the deepest seas. Maybe I’ll tell you my story, uh, on our next segment, but, uh, just be assured that, uh, he’s forgotten and he’s using you mightily now.

Speaker: And, and, and I I accept that and, and I I believe that, and I know I asked for his forgiveness and, and it was given [00:14:00] and.

Speaker: And he’s, he rep repented. I’ve repented and he’s put me in service and I am pleased to be of service. You know, we were talking earlier about how they deceive everyone. They call and you court, you specifically, I believe it was, uh, brought up, uh, you know, they call it healthcare. Uh, if you look up the definition of healthcare, according to Webster’s Dictionary, it is efforts made to maintain, restore, or promote someone’s physical, mental, or emotional wellbeing.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. Especially when performed by trained and licensed professionals. Abortion is not that. And sometimes, I’m sorry, go ahead.

Court Boice: Well, sometimes, you know, they don’t even meet these doctors till a few minutes before the abortion. So what kind of healthcare is that? Back to Britt’s ministry, you know, women are sold a bill of goods, for lack of a better term, that this is, this is easy, this is, there’s no consequences.

Court Boice: Well, in God’s love, there’s still. Is still the consequences for any decision we make in life, and so [00:15:00] they make a decision that has impact. For many, many years, as we all know, sometimes it doesn’t hit ’em until they’re in their forties or fifties and then Wow. So, uh, yeah, it’s, it’s a mission. It’s a ministry and, um, we can save a lot of pain and, uh, or what, to what extent we do save those, uh, save those consequences.

Court Boice: Uh, we’re on board and, and it’s just, um, it’s just part of God’s will.

Britt Ivy: You know, and to speak to that. Mm-hmm. Court just spoke about, uh, one of my ministries, path to thrive. And let me just share a line that I was privileged enough to begin a short speech that the Law for Life, um, council in DC I spoke at two Januarys ago.

Britt Ivy: Here’s how I like to put it, and people seem to get this. Women were sold a notion that ending [00:16:00] a pregnancy is like getting rid of bronchitis. And I bought that notion, hook, line, and sinker.

Court Boice: Mm-hmm. And not only you, but many.

Britt Ivy: Yeah. Yeah. So, and, and the men as well. And then, and then, you know, the men are told, well, you better back down because give the woman the right to choose.

Britt Ivy: So then the men say, at least in my case, it’s like, well, whatever you think, you know, and then they, so it’s put, the decision’s been then put back on the woman by herself. Oftentimes, I’m not saying every time, obviously,

Speaker: you know, I know for a fact that had I. Put my foot down the first time and, and, and the second time.

Speaker: But had I put my foot down and said, no, we’re keeping this child that we would not have had an abortion. Mm-hmm.

Court Boice: Or at least let it live, you know, if, if you couldn’t keep it in your home, [00:17:00] then mm-hmm. Adopt it out. You know, it’s

Speaker: put it up for Yeah. But I know if I had said, no, I want this baby. I want us to have this baby.

Speaker: We keep this baby.

Court Boice: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Yes, I know. For a fact, we wouldn’t have had the abortion.

Court Boice: And that’s why I love people like court in the legislative doing what you’re doing, because we need the men to stand up. Mm-hmm. They say, I think it’s a very high number of 70%. That may not be completely accurate, but if the woman knew their men we’re behind them mm-hmm.

Court Boice: They would’ve kept the baby or at least put it up for adoption.

Britt Ivy: Yeah, I believe that. So I’m so proud of him for being such a standup man, and we’re putting forth this Born Alive Bill and the Safe Haven Baby Act. We signed onto that as well, and we have an adoption bill coming up for putting forth in the long session, so, mm-hmm.

Britt Ivy: We’ve been fortunate enough to, I’ve met and worked with Alan Parker, the gentleman responsible for the [00:18:00] reversing of Roe versus Wade. Amazing gentleman. We’ve written Pam Bondi, a a Dr. A letter, uh, regarding Louisiana lawsuit and abortion pills. And as you know, the new mail at home, abortion pills are also filled with forever chemicals that have contaminated the world’s water supply.

Britt Ivy: Mm-hmm. This is no small thing. So, you know, this thing has, has tendrils and I’ll, I’ll let court speak to that.

Court Boice: No, I mean, just focusing on, I think it’s only 3% of, uh, babies born. Mostly without parents, only 3% actually make it to adoption. And yet there’s, as you both well know, there are thousands and thousands of, of couples out there that want to adopt a baby.

Court Boice: In Oregon, we make it incredibly difficult and in fact, if you are, uh, heavy in the Christian faith, the odds go down that you’re gonna be able to overcome and succeed for an [00:19:00] adoption so that in it. Itself is tremendous motivation. So it’s a discriminatory practice in this state, and California’s not far behind and mm-hmm.

Court Boice: Washington leads in similar, uh, political issues that are so detrimental to this family structure.

Speaker: Court. Let me stop you there. Are you, are you saying that in Oregon, that if you’re a Christian family, you have a more difficult time adopting a child?

Court Boice: It is part Bruce, it’s part of the bureaucracy, so it’s not a real open, blatant thing.

Court Boice: But, uh, we hear from, uh, Christian couples all the time. In fact, one, one mother adopted, uh, I think it was five or six kids, did a great job raising them. She wanted to do another one. They found out she was a Christian. They held her up until finally she won, she filed a lawsuit and won.

Court Boice: Wow. You know? Yeah.

Court Boice: Nothing

Court Boice: sur nothing surprises us here. When, when it comes to, to the progressive, [00:20:00] uh, the progressive policies that, um, again, really hurt families.

Speaker: How did we get to this point in this country? I, I mean, I just, I don’t get it. I don’t, I do not understand.

Court Boice: Well, it’s, it is a march towards, and I wouldn’t have said this a year ago, I don’t mind saying it, uh, publicly now in Oregon, um, it’s a march towards Marxism.

Court Boice: People say, what’s the difference between socialism and Marxism and central planning and communism? All the above. Uh, there really is no difference other than the spelling. And so when, uh. Especially how young people buy in as Bri used the term a minute ago. Uh, the notion that government knows best, well, it’s, uh, we’ve seen history since time began, man, wanting to control man and wiping out.

Court Boice: The, the basis of in individual freedom and individual responsibility. And so, uh, it’s just that movement [00:21:00] that, uh, you know, our side recognizes is, uh, detrimental to the quality of life. And, and it’s why we live in this country. And so we have to protect that. Um, and, uh, God be forced who’s gonna be against us.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Court Boice: Wow.

Court Boice: I know, I know when I get overwhelmed and I think, ah, what is going on? I just think, but God, you know, God is the one that is in control and it’s easy to forget that. And when we look around and what’s going on in our world, I don’t know if it’s the beginning or the end, right?

Speaker: Hey, Mike, that’s his call.

Speaker: That’s his word. That’s his call, his words. But you know, like

Speaker: a very good friend of ours says, Alex Newman says, Hey, it’s okay. We know how the story ends. Amen. God wins. So, you know, we, we know how the story ends, Vicky. He says, do not grow weary.

Court Boice: Right? Yeah. Well we have only about two and a half minutes left, so Brit and [00:22:00] court, uh, what do you have for our listeners?

Court Boice: And don’t worry listeners, we will have them back on soon.

Speaker: Very soon. Very soon. ’cause we, we just don’t have enough time.

Court Boice: No.

Speaker: So,

Court Boice: alright, go ahead. Whoever wants to start Brit or court.

Britt Ivy: Well, I just again, wanna thank you for your work and the space. You know, bringing awareness, uh, is really the first step in, in healing.

Britt Ivy: And we’re not here to shame or blame, you know, that doesn’t help anyone. So the women that I’m blessed to serve, um, you know, we start with that. And, and I’m not saying I was not responsibility for my choice, I just do not believe that something is quote, a choice unless you have all the information. So if you had the information.

Britt Ivy: Um, you might make a different choice. Uh, certainly in my case, and after being on the board of directors at Pregnancy Care Center for over eight years, we’ve learned that over 92% of women who see an [00:23:00] ultrasound Mm. Will keep their children. Yeah. So that would be part of an informed choice. And, and that’s why it’s generally not offered at, um, centers where they end life.

Britt Ivy: Right. Because half of their clients would, would walk out the door, so. Right. I’m just excited that you have dedicated your time at Energy to provide this platform for people to speak. And we’ve poked around your, your website, you’ve had some brilliant guests and, and videos, and it’s just amazing what, um, has been ignored and now is coming to light.

Britt Ivy: And as, as, uh, I mentioned, we, um, have been. In communication with the current administration, and thank goodness that they’re pro-America, pro-life. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Pro

Britt Ivy: people. Right.

Speaker: We, we have been blessed to, to meet President Trump and to, to be to his, be at his place. Uh, be invited a couple times to Mar-a-Lago, [00:24:00] and, um, probably the most pro-life and pro Christian president we’ve had in this country in my lifetime.

Court Boice: I’m so, he’s so persecuted.

Speaker: Yeah. ’cause of it. Yeah, because of it. So pray for our, pray for our leader. For sure. For President Trump. Hey, we’ve gotta roll on here. Uh, court. Give us your website one more time please.

Court Boice: Hey, everybody realize, remember, people are depending on us, and that in itself is motivating Court boys for oregon.com.

Court Boice: Thanks so much. You too. God bless you. We’ll pray for you

Speaker: and thank you very much and, and, um, and we’ll pray for you too. You right there. Absolutely. And Britt, one more time, your website.

Britt Ivy: Oh yes. Heart Life Foundation.

Speaker: Com. Com. Gotcha. Alright, we’re gonna have you guys back in just a couple of weeks. I know for sure we’re, we’re extending the invitation right now.

Speaker: We’ve got Father Frank Pavone coming up next on Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night on AM nine 50 FM 94.9. The answer.

Court Boice: God bless.

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Speaker: The, isn’t

Court Boice: it? So just great to find out that there are pro-life advocates in our legislation.

Speaker: Well, working, especially in blue states like Oregon. Yeah. Oregon. Mm-hmm. And so they’re in Oregon doing the [00:26:00] Lord’s work, and we are grateful and thankful for that. And someone who’s doing the Lord’s work here in Florida and all over the country.

Speaker: Our good friend, father Frank Pavone of Priest for Life has joined us. Welcome to the show, sir. Happy Thanksgiving weekend.

Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving. Uh, Bruce and Vicki, it’s great to be back on with you and with our great audience.

Court Boice: Well, and I was gonna say, I was like Jelly. I seen you at Mar-a-Lago on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7: Oh, I was there actually, yeah, just before Thanksgiving. Yeah. There was a, an annual, it’s an annual event put on by the America First Policy Institute. And that’s actually an organization that it would be great for all our listeners to get to know. Uh, you can learn about it at America First Policy. Dot com.

Speaker 7: But this was a group that was formed right at the end of President Trump’s first administration. Mm-hmm. By people who were in his cabinet and on his staff and who worked at Policy, you know, in the White House and who [00:27:00] said, look, you know, there’s gonna be another Republican administration, hopefully a second Trump administration, and when that day comes, we want to be ready.

Speaker 7: And so they spent all the years under the Biden administration. Uh, independently growing this, this organization called America First Policy Institute and working on policy and crafting executive orders mm-hmm. That they could propose to the president crafting, um, you know, legislation and just looking at how we continue to make and keep America great.

Speaker 7: And so it has grown immensely. I was part of it from day one. And, uh, so they have this annual, uh, event at Mar-a-Lago. I was there the other day. Wow.

Court Boice: Wow. Did President Trump, was that the one that Trump and Melania and Baron came to?

Speaker 7: No, that was later on. Uh, they, oh, on that day that we were there, they were still up in, uh, uh, the president was still up in, in, uh, in dc.

Speaker 7: Mm. But.

Court Boice: Well, I’m not quite as jelling then. [00:28:00] Yeah,

Speaker: there you go. But you, I mean, Mar-a-Lago is just so beautiful. It is. It’s, it is a beautiful place. Place, isn’t we? It just, it’s breathtaking. We’ve, we’ve been blessed to be there twice and bo both times by invitation to the president and just, just incredible, incredible place.

Court Boice: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: And both inside and out. Yes. Inside and out. And,

Court Boice: but it’s only worth a couple mil, right?

Speaker: Oh, well, according to the, according to that, that New York judge, it was only worth 18 million. And I’m sorry, the dining room we were in was worth 18. More than 18 million. Oh. I mean the, the China and the silverware.

Speaker: But it just a beautiful place. And, um, and, and our, our president, he’s, he’s, I don’t think it goes to his head. I mean, yeah, he’s, he’s a little bit bragga dose and, and everything, but you gotta be. He’s, you know, he can, he can,

Court Boice: he’s gotta have a little bit of a hard skin to put up with. Yeah. He’s got a little

Speaker: swagger about him and he needs to have that swagger.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. And uh, yeah. And so, I mean, he’s a good man. He’s a very good man. So,

Court Boice: well, it’s really good to hear that we have this America first policy that we were actually being. You know, [00:29:00] proactive and not waiting. And it seems like that’s one of the things I see in our, in our side. Mm-hmm. We always wait till it’s a big fight and it’s like down to the minutes and then we get together and like with the amendment four.

Court Boice: Mm-hmm. You know, we Right. We all kind of, were on our own little worlds in the pro-life. You know, movement. And then we’ve seen, hey, we, we have got to get this.

Speaker: Gotta wake up and do something. Yeah.

Court Boice: And so it’s good to see that anyway, that we are being a little more proactive.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah.

Court Boice: So,

Speaker: father Frank, it’s essential.

Speaker: Yes. What’s going on right now? What, uh, I know we’ve got the Walk for Life coming, or March for the preborn, I guess it is in January.

Speaker 7: In Florida? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There are a lot of big things, uh, that are coming up because January of course, is a big pro-life month. Uh, the Florida, Florida is having a statewide.

Speaker 7: March for life. Now, there are some local marches going on that people will hear about in January. Mm-hmm. But the one you just mentioned is this is a statewide march and it’s [00:30:00] going to be held in Jacksonville on the 17th of January. That’s a Saturday. That’s the weekend. Before the big national marches take place, one in Washington and one in San Francisco.

Speaker 7: Uh, but, uh, and, and, and I’m involved in, in preparing some things for both of those, but for Florida, uh, I really want to invite people to go to the details are at Florida March. Dot org Florida march.org. Uh, we’re going to actually have with the, uh, work of, um, Florida Right to Life and there’s various other groups collaborating to plan this, but Florida Right to Life is gonna have a gala the night before.

Speaker 7: So Tim Tebow is gonna be the guest of honor and the speaker. And so that’ll be right there in Jacksonville as well. And all the info and you know, opportunity to reserve tickets and tables are at that website, Florida march.org. But it’s going to be a nice pro-life weekend, the banquet Friday night, and then the march on Saturday morning and mid into [00:31:00] midday.

Speaker 7: And, uh, we, we’ve had some of these before, but we want this one of course to be, uh, bigger than ever because just like you just said, we came together and we stopped Amendment four. We’ve also come together over the last several years and we’ve really strengthened protections for the unborn in Florida.

Speaker 7: As our listeners know, uh, you know, the first to 15 week law and then the, then the six week law. And, and so now the unborn are, are very, very strongly protected. In Florida, there’s more to be done. We, it would be nice if we became like the other states, uh, some 12, 13 states that protect babies from conception.

Speaker 7: But, you know, we can get there. And, uh, but meanwhile, we want to keep the momentum. We wanna bring the, the Florida pro-lifers together as much as possible, and, uh, and keep marching and speaking and learning what we can do to end abortion. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Now, isn’t there also a march that’s going to take place in Tallahassee that same week?

Speaker 7: Uh, this one was in [00:32:00] Tallahassee last year. Mm-hmm. Um, we’re, we’re not planning anything this year, at least. I’m not involved in planning anything in Tallahassee this year. Uh, this, but this will be in Jacksonville. In Jacksonville.

Speaker: Okay. I, I’ll, I’ll do some checking. I believe there is something planned for a march on the legislature in Tallahassee, um, like a day or two after the one in Jacksonville.

Speaker: So I’ll, I’ll Oh, okay. Yeah, I’ll look into that. I

Speaker 7: know there’s a number, I know there’s a number of local events in January that May, that that’s likely one of them, like you’re saying.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, and, and Tim Tebow. Wow. That’s the guy who, Tim Tebow, the, the doctors told his mom he’s gonna be born with all kinds of difficulties.

Speaker: You should abort him. Yep. And she said, and she said, no. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 7: And she said no. And both she and he have spoken out strongly about this over the years. Uh, they’re both great pro-life witnesses. We had his mom, in fact, some years ago up at the national, uh, march. Uh, we do the, uh, I organized the prayer service, and that’s another thing I [00:33:00] wanted to mention.

Speaker 7: Uh, but on the day of the March for Life in Washington, which will be the 23rd of January, we hold a big interdenominational prayer service. A place called Constitution Hall and, uh, any Floridians that are coming up for the national march, please come join me. Join me and our team for that. Uh, uh, all of those details are on our Priests for Life website.

Speaker 7: Uh, and, uh, you know, we’ll be putting more details on there about not only the prayer service. But, uh, various other events that we have in the, the day before the big march and, um, and later that same day as well. So we are involved in a lot of activities in DC and then the next day we go out to San Francisco for the Big Walk for Life West Coast as it’s called.

Speaker 7: And that’s, that’s like the second largest annual event for the pro-life movement. And uh, and uh, we march by the tens of thousands in the streets of San Francisco.

Court Boice: Do you see a lot of, um. [00:34:00] The other side attacks when you do the versus in San Francisco? No, we

Speaker 7: don’t. We don’t actually. Oh, wow. Uh, the pro-abortion forces out there tried to stop this march the very first time it took place, and they did not succeed.

Speaker 7: Uh, but they actually did block the street and tried to intimidate. The organizers of the march, but the police out there were very, very cooperative. Um, and they allowed, uh, they made sure that the march could continue to its planned, uh, conclusion. Um, since then, you know, we’ve seen a certain years, you know, these little small.

Speaker 7: Uh, groups of counter protestors, uh, off to the side somewhere, but they’re always, if they are there in at all, uh, they’re always well contained, uh, by the police and, you know, they, they, the police have kept good order. We’ve never had any problems. And you would think, you know, San Francisco mm-hmm. That it would be worse, but it really isn’t.

Speaker 7: It’s a very much of a [00:35:00] family event and it’s a very religious event. And as a matter of fact, you know, you see this in Washington, but I would say it’s even more pronounced in San Francisco where you see religious, uh, brothers and sisters and clergy and their full attire, you know, marching and you’ll see crosses and, and statues of, uh, the Virgin Mary or, or other, other religious symbols.

Speaker 7: It’s a very, very, um, even though the march is not organized specifically as a religious march mm-hmm. There’s a lot of religious faith on display there. And of course that’s a big motivator for people to, uh, defend the unborn.

Court Boice: And that’s what makes you wonder. How do priests and, uh, clergy in general, uh, promote abortion?

Court Boice: You know, I’ve seen it over and over in these churches and I’m like, how, what bible are they reading?

Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, it’s interesting you said that. I just put a post up on my social media a couple hours ago, uh, and I invite people to connect with me on social media at Fr. [00:36:00] Frank Cone. Uh, but today, Pope Leo, who’s been traveling in in Turkey.

Speaker 7: Um, made a statement. He said, uh, condemning those who abuse religion in order to justify violence. Now we can see people do that throughout history. Unfortunately, in various ways, we see it with the radical Islamic terrorists. You know, they’re invoking god while they’re killing people. Mm. Well, whatever God, they’re invoke.

Speaker 7: You know, it’s the true God does not want anything to do with violence, but whoever the other people that invoke God while, while committing violence are radical pro-abortion people. And, uh, we even have organizations, there’s one called the. The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, uh, what a group of false prophets they are.

Speaker 7: Uh, they actually have bible studies for abortion. They actually have rituals of blessing couples as they go to get their abortion. Mm-hmm. It’s outrageous. And they say, oh, [00:37:00] we do this because of our faith. And, uh, there are a number of abortionists who have come out and said exactly those words. We, I do this because of my faith, not in spite of my faith.

Speaker 7: Uh, and then, you know, you have groups like. Catholics for choice, that for many years have been just distorting the meaning of the faith, the meaning of the scriptures. They go to the scriptures and they talk, you know, scripture does talk about freedom, right? We have freedom in Christ, but Paul says, don’t use your freedom as an excuse for vice.

Speaker 7: But that’s exactly what they do. Uh, so they, they omit that particular verse, you know, but that’s, that’s where they try to justify it in scripture. Oh yeah, we have freedom of choice. You know, as if that means you can write your own commandments.

Speaker: Yeah. Right. Hey, we’ve got a, a break here. We’ve got another segment coming up with Father Frank Pavone, A Priest for Life, and it is Pro-Life Radio on a Thanksgiving weekend.

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Court Boice: and welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening.

Court Boice: Online with us, we have Frank Pone with Priest for Life. Thank you so much. For coming on today with us. You’re welcome. So we were talking about a lot of things in this first or this last segment. We have one more segment with Frank. Um, what do you want our listeners to hear today from you?

Speaker 7: You know, we are in a, a fabulous moment, uh, here in [00:39:00] America.

Speaker 7: Uh, and, and you know, we who are involved in. Uh, political act, you know, as all three of us have been and are concerned about the direction of our politics. Mm-hmm. I just wanna say a word of encouragement on that front, because, you know, we’re obviously the next big thing, uh, for the country is the midterm elections.

Speaker 7: Uh, 2026 is gonna begin in just another month. Mm. And, um, I wanna encourage the listeners get involved. Like right now, don’t think of the elections as being in November. It’s right now. And, uh, you know, people might, might, uh, people who do follow politics, you know, will notice, you know, the Democrats have been having some good elections here and there.

Speaker 7: Some of these local races, some of these state races, some of the polling, uh, seems to be favorable. The folks, uh, uh, uh, on, uh, who, who, who, and I know many of the listeners did help us achieve such great victories last year. [00:40:00] Um, I think we need to be encouraging our fellow citizens to, to, to have a lot of patients, especially when it comes to economic matters, affordability, and so forth.

Speaker 7: There are a lot of things that are gonna kick in very, very heavily in 2026. Mm-hmm. I’m completely convinced. Uh, and, and you know, we have good reason to say this. Because the Trump administration and the Congress, uh, have put so many things in place over this last year that are going to, uh, not only get our economy on a good track, but make it like we had under President Trump’s first term before, before COVID came, uh, the strongest economy in our history and, and in the world.

Speaker 7: And we’re gonna feel that. See that and feel that in our daily lives, in our, in our, uh, BEC accounts and our mm-hmm. You know, our grocery bills and everything, um, you know, it’s certainly the inflation has come down from what it was under Biden, but I, I just wanna urge people for patience and, and you know, as you talk to your fellow citizens, it’s [00:41:00] like, you know, we.

Speaker 7: We’ve turned a big corner and there’s a lot of things that have been put in place that are gonna really, uh, bear fruit as we, uh, move along here. And that, that’s been the plan all along. Uh, but I think we all have to get active. We all have to zero in. And, you know, we have actually a C four organization called Pro-Life Vote and, uh, pro-life vote.com as you, as we always have done in.

Speaker 7: Past elections will have a lot of good resources, including for churches, uh, to be able to say and, and educate their people in certain things that don’t violate any, uh, you know, any norms or tax laws or anything like that. But there’s a lot that churches can do, uh, for this.

Court Boice: That sounds good. And that is important, you know, um, a lot of people think the pro-life issue is kind of a back issue, I think, and, and I mm-hmm.

Court Boice: I’m like, but if you don’t have life. You don’t have any of that other stuff. Your First Amendment rights, your gun rights, none of it matters if you don’t have life. You have to have life.

Speaker 7: [00:42:00] Yes, exactly. It’s the most fundamental issue from that point of view. It’s not necessarily the first issue, uh, in the front of the minds of people.

Speaker 7: Right. But it is the most fundamental in terms of when you look at the structure of our rights, uh, without life, without the right to life, you take away, let’s put it this way, you take away someone’s right to life. And you’ve taken away all their other rights. Mm-hmm. You can’t have a healthcare plan for somebody who was killed in the womb or an education plan for a child who never lived to go to school.

Speaker 7: Right. And, and, and, and so yeah. In that sense it’s, it’s always gotta be a. A top of mind. And, and, and for, for those that are just not seeing it, we have to remind them we have a holocaust going on around us as, uh, these thousands of babies are killed every day in our country by abortion,

Court Boice: you know, and this is a, a little bit off top.

Court Boice: This topic, but, um, I’ve been, had people say to me lately, well, you know, if I wouldn’t have had the abortion [00:43:00] when I did, ’cause I got pregnant not too long after, and with the dates and times, the child that I have now wouldn’t have been born if I wouldn’t have had that abortion. Mm. What do you think about that mindset?

Speaker 7: Well, you know, there, there you could say, whenever people look at consequences. After abortion and try to come up with some good thing that might not have happened. Mm-hmm. You could say the same thing about killing new, killing a newborn. I mean, if the, if the baby were born and you killed a newborn, you know, it’s like.

Speaker 7: Let me figure out all the good things that happen as a result, you know? Mm-hmm. Uh, that wouldn’t happen otherwise. It, it’s like you can’t, the end never justifies the means is what it boils down to. Of course, that’s the biblical teaching. We cannot do evil that good might come of it. Uh, and therefore we can’t rejoice in the, in the fruits of evil later on, you know, as if, oh, isn’t it good that I, that I, that I did [00:44:00] that?

Speaker 7: Of course, most of the time what we see in those that have had abortions. Is the opposite kind of thing where they say, my goodness, if I hadn’t had the abortion, neither would I have had all these terrible things happening to me. Uh, these physical and psychological, emotional, spiritual, relational problems that have arisen ’cause it’s so devastating on so many levels.

Speaker 7: Of course, we’ve talked about this in previous programs, uh, and we should never tire of talking about it. Uh, and this is where I would urge people to go to abortion testimonies.com. Uh, that’s our silent no more campaigns, uh, collection of testimonies. You talk about, oh, if I hadn’t had this abortion, look at all the negative things that happen.

Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. Abortion testimonies.com gives us a little bit of an idea.

Court Boice: Yeah, I’ve went, been on that and it is a very powerful, all the testimonies are incredibly powerful. I’ve used a few when I’ve spoken at different things. It’s, it’s a great website.

Speaker: You know, I, mm-hmm. I, [00:45:00] and Vicki will tell you this about me.

Speaker: I’m kind of a simple guy, and, and I don’t mean that in a negative way, but it’s, I, I don’t want to get all into the minutia of what if and what if. Mm-hmm. And if I don’t. Abortion is just wrong.

Court Boice: Amen.

Speaker: Right. It’s just, it’s murder and it’s just wrong. I think if we keep it simple for people to understand. I will tell you, after the two abortions that I’ve participated in, I instantly knew.

Speaker: What I had done was wrong. Mm-hmm. I knew you knew I, and I

Court Boice: think we’re trying to play God when we do that. Well, if I would’ve had that abortion, this person would’ve been born. I, I think it’s kind of like with Abraham and Sarah and, and the maid servant and what happened with all that. You know, we’re trying to put our will and our way and our.

Court Boice: In, you know, we’re just,

Speaker: we’re not doing God’s will. We’re trying to be in control. We’re trying to, well,

Court Boice: what if this, you know, if I could push this, uh, it’s just, uh, like you said, father Frank, it is, it’s, it’s aggravating and it’s, um, [00:46:00] it’s, it’s not, you can’t have good things happen out of doing bad things.

Court Boice: Yeah.

Speaker 7: No. No, and that’s the spiritual problem with, you know, the slogan, pro-choice. It sounds like we’re saying pro-free. Mm-hmm. Of course, we’re all pro-freedom people, but when it comes to pro-choice, what we’re really saying there in the context of abortion is, you know, my decisions more important than God’s.

Speaker 7: Right. God decided that this child is here to come about. No, I, I, I, I have, I, I have a, I have a better view of the situation. Mm-hmm. I’m, I figured it out better than God, so we’re gonna, we’re gonna put an end to this child. It, it’s, so, there’s such an arrogance in that and, uh, it, it goes back to the real original sin.

Speaker 7: You will be like Gods, and that we’ve got to resist.

Court Boice: Yes. Well, you only have about four minutes left, father Frank. What do we need to know here in the pro-life world?

Speaker 7: Well, uh, you, you, we at Priests for Life are going to be in 2026, really ratcheting up our efforts to [00:47:00] mobilize the churches on this fundamental issue.

Speaker 7: That’s what got our ministry started back over 30 years ago. Uh, that’s what what motivates our team. Uh, above all, it’s like if the churches were to step up to the plate, we could end this much faster. Amen. And we are going to have a special packet for churches. In fact, we’re asking people, lemme lemme give you another special website.

Speaker 7: I always got a lot of different websites, uh, that I throw out there. Uh, but Pro-Life Church. Uh, Pro-Life Church. But what we’re asking folks to do is first of all, check out in these coming weeks and months, uh, the resources that we’re going to have. We’re gonna have like a. Pro-Life Church toolkit, uh, better than than we’ve ever had before.

Speaker 7: We’ve always had a lot of resources for this, but Pro-Life Church toolkit for 2026, and we’re asking for if people would be like a liaison between their church and the kind of resources and products and projects [00:48:00] that we’re gonna produce because we can’t get ’em into the churches unless somebody is there as a bridge.

Speaker 7: And then we wanna invite, I know so many of our listeners are just so into the pro-life movement. And, uh, uh, very helpful people. Uh, so we wanna help you, help your church be really active on this. So Prolife Church, and I’m looking forward to really great things on that front in 2026.

Speaker: Now, if I, if I may, father Frank, uh, ’cause I’m on the, I’m on the website right now for Prolife Church and not everyone that listens to this show is Catholic or Episcopalian, so they might be thrown off by.

Speaker: Become a parish liaison. So that basically is, you would become a church liaison to, to your church. Correct. Exactly. So exactly. For the Baptist Exactly. Methodist folks like that. Okay. So, uh, precisely. Okay. Yep. Alright, well I’m, I’m signing up for now. Yeah, thank you for

Speaker 7: point. Thank you for pointing that out too.

Speaker 7: Yes, exactly. Yeah. The material and they’ll find the materials are very, very useful across denominational lines and that, that’s always been, uh, uh, uh, important to us as well. [00:49:00]

Speaker: Alright. I just signed up so. All right. All right. So that is, that is, uh, it’s, it’s, you can find it@priestforlife.org slash Pro-Life Church and it’ll take you to the website and you just sign up, get your church involved.

Speaker: That’s right. All right. And I think you are so

Court Boice: right, uh, father Frank, that if the church has got involved in this issue, it would be quickly put to sleep, you know? Yes. We wouldn’t have. People thinking it’s okay to kill their, especially churches. I mean, I, that is just unfathomable that a church would, I didn’t know anything about those, what you were saying earlier in the show.

Court Boice: Right, right, right. That is so disheartening.

Speaker: Yeah. And, and we, you’ve seen it yourself. You’ve seen. Church buses pull up Yeah. At pro-abortion rallies. And you’re thinking they’re there to, yeah. To, to pray for people. No, they’re, they’re supporting what they call a woman’s right. [00:50:00]

Speaker 7: To

Court Boice: kill

Speaker 7: her own child. To kill her

Speaker: own child.

Speaker: Just, just unbelievable. Well, we are, we

Speaker 7: gotta be a light in the dark.

Speaker: Absolutely. Absolutely. Father Frank, thank you. We are out of time and I, my pleasure. I know you just got back from traveling for Thanksgiving. Thank you for taking time to be with us on this Thanksgiving Sunday night and, uh, we appreciate it.

Speaker: And, um. Prayers for you and your ministry to continue. Well, and uh, we look forward to seeing you again soon. We’ll have you back on the show here in January, as I said. Uh, so thank you sir. Thank you so much. Alright, Pro-Life Radio. That’s it for my lovely wife Vicki Cherry. I’m Bruce Cherry. We will see you again next week.

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