Conversation with Dinah Monahan & The ProLife Doc
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Bruce Cherry: is Pro-Life Radio with your hosts, Vicky and Bruce Cherry, and welcome to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. And Vicky Cherry across from me, my lovely wife. How are you?
Vicky Cherry: I’m good.
Bruce Cherry: Alright. And Bruce Cherry with you. And we’ve got, um, we’ve got a show that’s, uh, a little bit different, uh, as we’ve got two guests and we’re gonna spend the first half of our show with this guest.
Bruce Cherry: Vicky and I, and many of you probably wear the feet that her mom created, called the precious feet, and they’re the little golden feet you see, uh, that are the size of a 10 week old baby in the womb. And, uh, our guest is Dinah Monahan. Dinah is the Executive director of New Hope Pregnancy Resource Centers.
Bruce Cherry: And she’s gonna tell us about that. And you’ve got a lot of things going on, Dinah, but before we get to that, we always start with Jeremiah one, five and prayer. [00:01:00]
Vicky Cherry: Okay? Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you before you were born. I sanctified you. I ordained you a prophet to the nations.
Bruce Cherry: Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for your blessing upon this show again tonight, and upon all of our guests and all who hear this show that we be fruitful, that we change hearts and minds about how precious life is and how no one has a right to end the life that you have ordained to be.
Bruce Cherry: God, we pray for your blessing. We pray for your guidance, and we thank you for this opportunity to share truth in the name of your Son. We pray to you our Heavenly Father. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Dinah, thank you for being with us tonight. Dinah and I met a couple of weeks ago at CareNet, a pro-life conference in, uh, Charlotte, North Carolina, and there were people there from all over the country.
Bruce Cherry: And uh, Dinah, thank you for being with us on the show tonight. My pleasure. Now something [00:02:00] interesting. I had, she saw the, the, the feet on my lapel, on my jacket and said, oh, where did you get those? And I have to, uh, I have to give credit where credits to my wife, Vicky had found those and ordered them. And we have several, several pair of feet and we have probably bestowed those feet upon several members of, uh, of the pro-life team that, uh, support us and, uh, folks who, who make donations and things like that to help, uh, uh, keep.
Bruce Cherry: Keep the fight going here in central Florida. So, uh, tell us about how those feet came to be.
Dinah Monahan: Well, my mom and my dad were always activists. Um, and, um, my mom, uh, it was before Roe v. Wade and she saw Dr. KO’s picture in the San Diego Union. Uh, it was a full page and it was a picture of him holding a pair of [00:03:00] little feet, uh, real feet between his finger and his thumb.
Dinah Monahan: And, uh, she was just. I mean, I can still remember her reaction to it. It was just, um, so she was so just. Appalled and amazed at the same time. So that was the inspiration. And then in 19, uh, 90, let’s see, three. So about 1995, she actually brought it to fruition. Started. Just with not that many. And then now I think there’s about 25 million out there.
Dinah Monahan: And, and to be honest, you can go to, I travel and when I travel, I see those precious feet. I’ve seen ’em on cruises. I’ve seen ’em, uh, over in, in other countries. It’s, it’s pretty amazing.
Bruce Cherry: Hmm. It it, that’s gotta be something special to, uh, to see those and realize that your, your mom and dad had something to do with that.
Dinah Monahan: [00:04:00] Oh yeah, they, well, and they went on, they were some of the original pro-lifers, they were the pioneers. They were with Jack Wilkie and Father Paul Marks and all of those original pioneers who, when they came, they actually birth the movement. There was, there were right to Lifes in California and different states where abortion was legal, but there was nothing, uh, nationally.
Dinah Monahan: And so everybody sort of took their own. And, uh, together they wove this powerful pro-life movement that we know today.
Bruce Cherry: Hmm. Well now tell us about your new Hope Pregnancy Resource Centers, please.
Dinah Monahan: Well, um, in, I think it was like, oh, 1997, or it was a long time ago, uh, I, we moved up to the White Mountains and, uh, of Arizona and it, it’s.
Dinah Monahan: Rural. We came from California. We wanted to get out of the city. [00:05:00] And boy did we choose somewhere that got us out of the city. We’re up in the Pines. We’re actually in the Pines of Arizona. Uh, they have mountains. People just don’t realize it. And uh, so when we moved here and then as we got involved with the pro-life.
Dinah Monahan: I mean, my parents were always involved. So as we, um, just walked out our pro-life beliefs, um, at some point someone said, we need a a, a center. And, uh, so we started it, I called it Women’s Choice Pregnancy Center at the time, which is a great name in the city. But when you’re in a small town mm-hmm. People think you’re, you’re a pro-abortion.
Dinah Monahan: I had a whole lot of people come down on me and, you know, uh, that I was pro-abortion. I’m like, wait a minute, wait a minute. So I changed the name and to, uh, to Living Hope and ran it for 20 some years. What started is a half a room shared with another ministry. Then it grew to three, three centers. One on [00:06:00] Springerville, which a tiny little town, one in show low, and then one in in White River, which was the only center on an Indian reservation in the country.
Dinah Monahan: And so. Uh, grew that, ran it. We also had a secondhand store and it was just a, an amazing ministry and we ended up, I, um, and I have the stats from back then. I have the newsletters in, when, when I retired in 2010, uh, I, we were seeing between the three centers a thousand, about 1,250 client visits. A month.
Dinah Monahan: It was a month it, we had an impact on this community that was unbelievable. So, and then I handed it off, I retired and it didn’t take that, you know, maybe 12, 15 years. And, uh, I saw that it was going [00:07:00] under. Uh, so even though my life went another direction, I stepped back in and I’m executive director again, and we’re sort of building up, but we’re doing pretty good where I’m sort of excited, but it started almost from the beginning.
Dinah Monahan: Hmm. So that’s where we’re at. But our, our now our center on the res is doing real well. We’ve got a lot of clients coming in and, and we’re building. And
Bruce Cherry: how do you, how do you fund your center?
Dinah Monahan: Donations.
Bruce Cherry: And how would people reach out to you to, to make donations?
Dinah Monahan: Oh, uh, well, uh, they can go to, uh, new hope pc.org and that, oh, I’m sorry.
Dinah Monahan: That’s our client site and you really should go see it. It’s pretty awesome. It’s bringing in, we have nurse chat. Okay. But please forgive me. Mm-hmm. The other one, which would be the person wanting to donate and learn about us.
Music: Mm-hmm. [00:08:00]
Dinah Monahan: Would, uh, uh, teams at, uh, teams that no teams at New Hope. PC and I’m just gonna go look that up.
Dinah Monahan: Let’s revisit that question when I go pull it up please. Because you don’t go there very often. I have to go into my phone. I, yeah. Anyway, when we revisit that, go ahead and let’s move on.
Bruce Cherry: Okay. Now you mentioned also that you have a, a home for pregnant women.
Dinah Monahan: Women. Well, uh, we did have a home for pregnant women here in, um, we had a home for pregnant women.
Dinah Monahan: In the White Mountains. Mm-hmm. And it’s called, uh, hope House. And I, I do not have that now. It’s being run by Dream Center. It’s wonderful. It’s running well, but I don’t have it now. Um, but I, what I did when I retired, my husband and I went to Ethiopia. Mm-hmm. And [00:09:00] ended up starting a maternity home there.
Dinah Monahan: And I’m still running that.
Vicky Cherry: I bet that is an interesting area.
Dinah Monahan: Oh, it’s, well say
Vicky Cherry: it’s another
Dinah Monahan: world.
Vicky Cherry: It’s,
Dinah Monahan: mm-hmm. Yeah. It’s, uh, abortion. It’s tragic. Uh, you know, Ethiopians are very child-centric. Family-centric, I mean, uh, and they have traditional values. And, uh, it ethiopia’s made up a third of Muslim, third, uh, Orthodox and about a third Evangelical.
Dinah Monahan: And, um, although the Muslims are gaining but aren’t all of those,
Bruce Cherry: aren’t all of those faiths pro-life?
Dinah Monahan: Well, they don’t even know. They don’t know. Uh, now the Muslims
Music: are okay. The
Dinah Monahan: Muslims are pro-life. Although you have Muslim abortionists, but [00:10:00] they will not do an abortion on a Muslim woman.
Bruce Cherry: Oh, but they’ll on on a Christian or no?
Bruce Cherry: Yeah, of course.
Dinah Monahan: And so, um, what, what you have there is, uh, Marie Stokes, which is the European counterpart of Planned Parenthood, and they have open clinics and they are, um, I mean their goal is to just abort. Abort the nation. It, it’s stunning what they do. And the lack of, I mean, these young women, they have so many needs and they walk in hungry, they walk in homeless, they walk in and none of that is their issue.
Dinah Monahan: Their issue is, here, let, we’ll, we’ll solve your problem and kill your baby. And they send them out and they’re still homeless and they’re still hungry. And so, um, anyway, so we, uh, we opened the maternity home, uh, and my husband died 10 years ago. And so there was a lag time there where, [00:11:00] uh, I wasn’t involved and I revived it.
Dinah Monahan: Uh, and we, but we’re a little different Instead of a main home, we house them in individual rooms. Um. And they meet and they, the, the gals that we get are on their way to the abortion clinic. We have people in the abortion clinic and in the hospital that does late term abortions who will send us these young women.
Dinah Monahan: They tell ’em about us and send them to us. And so we only ha, we only take girls who were. Going to the pregnancy clinic, and a lot of ’em were in the pre, uh, or I’m sorry, the, the abortion clinic, a lot of ’em were in it. Mm-hmm. And so they come to us and, uh, and it’s just, um, it’s very different. Yeah.
Dinah Monahan: Culturally it’s, it’s, its interesting. But I’ll tell you what, transcends all cultures. Is that innate, that innate love that a mother has for their child? Mm, [00:12:00]
Bruce Cherry: absolutely. Regardless of circumstances. Absolutely. Hey, Diana, we’re up against a break. When we come back, I’d like for you to share with us about the ministry that you were.
Bruce Cherry: Promoting when you were at, uh, CareNet last week, Psalm 51. So we’re gonna talk more with you about that. Next, more Pro-Life Radio. Coming up on a Sunday night on AM nine 50 FM 94.9, the answer.
Vicky Cherry: Welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicky Cherry, and sitting across from me is my husband Bruce. Hey. So we were talking about, um, the Ethiopia, uh, maternity home. Is that what Uhhuh? Yes. Uhhuh. And before we move on to Psalms, I think it’s Psalms, uh, 51. 51? Yes. Psalms 51. Mm-hmm. I had a question about that.
Vicky Cherry: Do you find that the reasons people are coming, um, are different than here in the States [00:13:00] for abortions? Oh, is it? Is it the same type reasons? Oh my God. Is it different reasons? Cultural. But no, it, what it has to do with
Dinah Monahan: is, uh, over there, culturally, if you get pregnant out of wedlock, even if you’re raped, uh, you are kicked out of your, your tribe, you’re kicked out of your village, or, you know, you worry, first thing you worry about is being out, uh, of that protection in the hyenas eat.
Dinah Monahan: Mm-hmm. And then after that, um, you know, you have no income. It’s not like here, there’s no safety net. Our ladies, our mamas who choose life are so brave and, um, we, we house ’em for a year. We, I, they make hands sew clothes, uh, that we give to the poor kids, and then we pay them per piece so they can leave at least with the savings.
Dinah Monahan: We, you know, we try to find them [00:14:00] some kind of job a lot of times as a housekeeper. Um, it’s difficult. It’s very difficult. Sounds like it. Their reason for boarding is can be survival. Mm-hmm. And yet you should see the pictures of their faces glow when they’re holding their babies.
Vicky Cherry: So we are so fortunate here and we, we have no idea what people around the world have to suffer through just to, to have a child.
Vicky Cherry: And I can’t imagine being kicked out of a place and having to survive the wild being eaten by the hyenas, like you said. And here it’s like, like people go to have an abortion because. Oh, I just, I just don’t feel like looking like I’m pregnant or, you know, to hide an affair or I, I, the difference is just astounding.
Dinah Monahan: But tell us more. And there’s so much help here.
Vicky Cherry: Yeah. There’s
Dinah Monahan: so much. Yeah. I’ve run my maternity home here for 20 years and I, I’m telling you, these girls could get anything. Mm-hmm. [00:15:00] They could get education and, uh, work skills and people are so always so generous. It was almost like. Too generous. We don’t wanna develop, uh, you know, that whole, um, gimme, gimme mentality, and I, I want it free, so.
Dinah Monahan: Mm-hmm. That’s what we’re up against in this country. And over there they’re up against basic survival. And, and I’ll just say this over there, because we share the gospel, it’s a core part of what we do. And when we share the gospel with them and they find Jesus. The, for us, it competes with a whole lot of other distractions for them.
Dinah Monahan: They know they’re poor, they know they, their value is very limited in society’s eyes. They’re poor, they’re pregnant, they’re single. Uh, and, and there’s a lot of shame there. But when they truly grasp that the creator of the universe loves them, the. [00:16:00] They react to it very differently oftentimes than people here, because that is their only value.
Dinah Monahan: And it’s, they understand it. There’s, there’s nothing, you know, nothing competing against it. That’s amazing. Uh, culturally. So it’s, it’s, yeah, it’s pretty amazing.
Vicky Cherry: So tell us about, I know that when you and met, uh, Bruce met in, um. North, North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina. Um, you had, were there representing Psalms 51 and what is that ministry?
Dinah Monahan: Well, when I, when my husband died about 10 years ago and I had retired and I was still doing Ethiopia stuff, but I had retired and not to not do things, but to just, um. Yeah, to do something else. And then my husband died and then it was like, well, God, after a hard, I actually lost, [00:17:00] uh, five people in an 18 month period, including a nephew and my husband.
Dinah Monahan: It was the hardest period of my life. And so,
Vicky Cherry: but God has a way of taking that misery, of making it a ministry, obviously.
Dinah Monahan: Oh, he did? Mm-hmm. He did. And, and I can stand in front of any woman and say, Christ is sufficient. Amen. Christ is sufficient. And also our family has had some tragedies just with, um, with offenses against children and, um, you know, my grandchildren.
Dinah Monahan: And so I am, I’m very aware of that part of it and what it does to women. So all my time at the center, I have been counseling women and I’m not, I’m a, I’m a trained lay counselor, but just. I would counsel them, I would listen to them, I would pray with them, but I knew there was something more. There was something at a mu, a deeper level.
Dinah Monahan: And finally God brought me to uh, someone [00:18:00] and I was able to, um, be exposed to the core root of shame. I’m not talking about shame for what you’ve done, although there’s a lot of that, but it’s built on this sense of shame that there’s something wrong with me that’s not wrong with anyone else in the world.
Dinah Monahan: And when I make a mistake, it proves I am a mistake. And this feeling is found in Christian women. By the way, my ministry is mostly toward pregnancy center staff, volunteers. Uh, they come to, uh, a retreat. They go through my stuff and come to a retreat and it is. It is so many women in the pews, they have this deep, visceral feeling that you don’t even talk about it.
Dinah Monahan: They don’t even hardly can put the words to it, but the lie of shame that there’s something flawed in you, keeps it. It’s Satan’s greatest lie and it keeps women performing it. It’s the opposite of our identity in Christ. It is the absolute opposite. [00:19:00] And, uh, you know, the, it says in the Bible, therefore, there’s no condemnation in those who have served the Lord or love the Lord.
Dinah Monahan: And my goodness, the self condemnation that women go through, oh, I can’t believe I said this. Oh, I so stupid. Oh, I can’t believe I, there’s, and there’s five fingerprints of shame. I won’t go through ’em. But, um, when women start learning about it, I’m able to put words to a feeling. That they’ve been battling, but not knowing what it is.
Dinah Monahan: So I have a teaching on the website and on the website it, um, there’s videos, there’s, uh, giving God your worst, which is the first one which flips everything. It, it is the um, and antithesis of performance, giving God your worst. The second one is called Breaking the Shackles of Shame, and that’s 15 short videos.
Dinah Monahan: And, and you can download the worksheets. Everything’s free. And then the third one is, uh, parenting Without Shame. And what was [00:20:00] that
Vicky Cherry: website?
Dinah Monahan: Uh, it’s um, Psalm 50, spelled out P-S-A-L-M-F-I-F-T-Y and then ONE.
Vicky Cherry: Okay, say it one more time.
Dinah Monahan: 50 P-S-A-L-M-F-I-F-T-Y-O-E. And so it’s, it’s all there on the website. I want women to go that nagging feeling Something’s wrong with me.
Dinah Monahan: Something’s, you know, so, so what happened was, I made these videos, Brandon, and my son runs Heritage House. He, he has Bright Course. He created Bright Course. Uh, and any centers listening knows what, what that is. It’s the parenting program, but this is on the training side. And so he started, uh, he carried, started carrying it, and women were just, it, it’s unbelievable what happened.
Dinah Monahan: It’s like started this revolution. And then when my husband died, I built a retreat home because I felt that’s what I was supposed to do. And then I [00:21:00] looked at it and said, okay, now what? And he knew, and he brought all of this together. He co-listed at the time and when it worked, and we now have retreats are a hundred dollars a piece.
Dinah Monahan: For per woman, we feed you from Wednesday to Sunday. We love on you and I teach and women go through my material. They have to go through my material, but when they go through my material and then they come to retreat and it’s like, it’s like, um, they find freedom. It’s, it’s unbelievable. I, I have a retreat home in the mountains, beautiful mountains of Arizona.
Dinah Monahan: I have just built a little chapel on it. I have a lake. And, uh, we pick women up at the airport. We drive them up, and it’s from Wednesday to Sunday. And so, and you do this every week that has been transforming women. And most of our clients, by the way, are, are, uh, [00:22:00] volunteers and staff. At centers. Mm-hmm.
Dinah Monahan: Because this movement attracts women who have trauma in their past, and they think that working in this, you know, at a center mm-hmm. Or working with other women mm-hmm. Will help that trauma and it doesn’t. And,
Bruce Cherry: and Diana, how often do you do these, uh, retreats?
Dinah Monahan: Um, we do ’em, um, march through March through October.
Dinah Monahan: Once a month.
Bruce Cherry: Once a month. Okay.
Dinah Monahan: And, and under retreats it’s listed there and Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s whole centers are bringing all their staff like, uh, from, uh, Alaska of all things. Uh, a center came and, and when you know it, they came in March and it snowed. But anyway, we’re up in the mountains. But yeah, whole centers are coming and it’s, um, when you really understand the Satan’s lie of shame and what it robs you of.
Dinah Monahan: And how destructive it is. You, it, it [00:23:00] shifts your entire lens through which you see yourself, God in the world. When you see through truth instead of through Satan’s lie of shame, it’s pretty dramatic stuff. Mm-hmm.
Bruce Cherry: Yeah, a lot of people and, and fortunately there are a lot of ministries out there now all over the country that are addressing the shame that is attached to abortion and, and, and offering healing.
Bruce Cherry: Uh, ’cause well, God offers the healing, but people have to know where to look for it. And so we’re, you know, right. That’s what your ministry’s about. That’s what a lot of these ministries are about, that we, we talk with folks every week and we thank you for what you’re doing.
Dinah Monahan: Right. And I will say. Uh, if someone comes to us and they had an abortion, actually we’re, we’re doing abortion retreats also, uh, separate from that specifically, I, this is deeper than abortion.
Dinah Monahan: It’s more fundamental, but then they need to go through an abortion healing retreat or program because abortion is so specific. Of a, uh, [00:24:00] sin. It’s so, and anyway, but, uh, yeah, so we realized so many of the ladies who came to us had abortions, so we’re actually starting abortion retreats.
Bruce Cherry: Well, Dyna Monahan, thank you very much for being with us today.
Bruce Cherry: Dinah is the founder of Psalm 51 Ministry, and you can reach out to her and find out more about the ministry by visiting online at Psalm p. S. 50. It’s spelled out. F-I-F-T-Y. Do ONE.
Dinah Monahan: Oh, and the other email or the other website was, uh, new Hope at team TEAM.
Bruce Cherry: New Hope at team. Okay.
Dinah Monahan: New Hope. New
Bruce Cherry: Hope team.team.
Bruce Cherry: Okay. Alright then Diana, thank you very much. We’re, we’ll have you back again when we can spend more time with you and we’d like to get an update on how things are going with, uh, uh, Psalm 51 and with, uh, with your, uh, new Hope Pregnancy Resource Centers. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for what you’re doing.
Bruce Cherry: God bless. [00:25:00]
Dinah Monahan: Bless. Bye-bye.
Bruce Cherry: Alright, more Pro-Life Radio coming up in just a bit. Our next guest will have Pro-Life, Dr. William Lile on with us. Next on Pro-Life Radio, AM nine 50 FM 94.9. The answer.
Bruce Cherry: And we are back on a Sunday night, Pro-Life Radio. Bruce Cherry, my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry across from me. And, uh, just a, a really a great experience. A couple of weeks ago I had the, uh, the honor of being at, uh, CareNet and one of the people that I met, um, was Dr. William Lile. He is known as the pro-life doc.
Bruce Cherry: And we had a brief conversation and he started sharing some information with me. Nobody’s talking about this and the fact that there is a reversal pill. For the abortion pill, and Dr. Lile was sharing that information and so we’ve got him on the show. Doctor, thank you for joining us. I know you’ve got a very busy schedule.
Bruce Cherry: I know you and your wife are [00:26:00] traveling around and, and you, you do a lot of podcasts and, and things, so thank you very much for joining us. Uh, tell us about your practice and what you and your wife do.
Radio Announcer: Bruce, it’s an honor to be on with you and Vicky. Uh, I practice obstetrics and gynecology. I’m board certified and I’ve delivered over 5,000 baby babies licensed to practice medicine, both Alabama and Florida.
Radio Announcer: And in 1999, the practice that we took over was the largest abortion clinic in the Florida panhandle. So we. Took it over. We had the former abortionists assign a two year non-compete, and on day one we just stopped all abortions. Oh, wow. And to this day. That’s awesome. Yeah. From Mobile, Alabama, all the way to Tallahassee, Florida, 200 miles, there is not a single abortion clinic.
Radio Announcer: Along the Florida Gulf Coast, so Wow. It’s, uh, the beginning of a ministry. We’re actually here at the Catholic Medical Association in Kansas City. We spoke at the Y Lathe [00:27:00] Pregnancy Center banquet on Thursday night. And they had over 900 people there, including governor, uh, Jeff Collier from Kansas. So it was just an amazing evening.
Radio Announcer: We also spoke over at the Benedictine College. In three years, Benedictine will be starting a decidedly pro-life. Medical school, the first in the country. So we were giving them some assistance as far as curriculum and, you know, steps to take. And we just are honored to be able to partner with anybody who is understanding the pro-life message and is willing to engage in this, this battle.
Bruce Cherry: Wow. I did not know the story about your clinic, uh, having been a former abortion clinic and now it’s an OB GYN office. That is just powerful. Correct. God bless you. And oh, thank
Radio Announcer: you my friend.
Bruce Cherry: And I know you had your lovely wife with you at, uh, at CareNet and I know she’s traveling with you and, uh, uh, so thank you both for what you do.
Radio Announcer: Oh, it’s an honor to defend [00:28:00] God’s pre-born in the womb and to. Provide kingdom service and education and new tools for people so that when they meet with their family or friends or even coworkers, they don’t just say that they are pro-life, but they can actually articulate exactly why they are pro-life in this great spiritual battle that we’re all engaged in.
Radio Announcer: Wow.
Bruce Cherry: So, so tell me, you were talking about the reversal abortion pill. Yes, sir. Let’s, let’s spend a little time on that, because I’ve heard no one speak of this.
Radio Announcer: Well, the first, the abortion pill is now responsible for probably 70% of all the abortions in the United States, and that’s probably about at least 630,000 abortions just with the abortion pill.
Radio Announcer: And the abortion pill will kill a baby in the womb. 98% of the time, up to 10 weeks gestation. So the babies have fingers, toes, and beating hearts. And it is now available in all [00:29:00] 50 states. It can get sent from, you know, into pro-life states, from pro-abortion states. It’s coming in from India, China, Mexico.
Radio Announcer: And not only is it harming. Babies and killing babies, but this is harming women as well. There was a study that came out in April by the Ethics and Public Policy Center, and they conducted the largest uh, study ever on the safety of the abortion pill and what they found while they enrolled 865. Thousand women through their, uh, insurance information, women who had taken the abortion pill.
Radio Announcer: We were told that the severe and life-threatening complication rate of somebody taking the abortion pill would be less than 0.5%. What their study showed was that it was actually 11%, so it was 22 times higher. As far as women, I mean, there [00:30:00] were. 40,000 women who after taking the abortion pill, had to go to the er.
Radio Announcer: There were 26,000 women who had to be seen because of heavy bleeding. There were 24,000 of women who had taken the abortion pill that needed to have an additional surgery because they didn’t pass all the products of pregnancy. There were 12,000 cases of infection or sepsis. And then most, you know, concerning was that there were three.
Radio Announcer: Thousand cases of women who had ectopic pregnancies. The abortion pill is now available without having an ultrasound. Often purely mail order, and statistically of every pregnancy in the United States, at least 1%, so one out of a hundred, that pregnancy statistically, will be a tubal pregnancy or an ectopic pregnancy, which is a life-threatening condition.
Radio Announcer: So when a woman. Receives the abortion pill, she is told you’re gonna have [00:31:00] bleeding, cramping, and pain. Well, one of the symptoms of a rupturing bleeding ectopic pregnancy, the exact same is bleeding, cramping, and pain. And we are seeing lots of women who are delaying care and coming into emergency rooms late because they thought, this is what I’m supposed to be expecting.
Radio Announcer: Yet they had a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy. Babies are dying, women are being harmed. Women deserve better than this kind of quote unquote medical healthcare and abortion is clearly not healthcare. It’s a purpose is to kill a baby in the womb. And if your daughter has a cell phone. She has access to the abortion pill without any permission, without a credit card.
Radio Announcer: Even if she has no money, your grandchild could be killed by the abortion pill and your daughter could be harmed by the abortion pill. [00:32:00]
Bruce Cherry: Doctor, I I, I wanna ask you to back up a little bit because we, we don’t hide anything on this show. And I’m a, I’m, I’m not a fan of the way that, uh, uh, pro that, um, uh, planned Parenthood and, and, uh, the way a lot of, um, medical institutions have sterilized, so to speak, the, the words they use in, in.
Bruce Cherry: In describing abortion. Uh, but then when they say terminate the pregnancy, you know, which to me in my mind means murder the baby. Um, you said, uh, women are having surgery because they’re not passing all of the product of pregnancy. Can you be more definitive in what the product is of pregnancy?
Radio Announcer: Sure. When we have most people, when they have their first ultrasound, when they’re pregnant, they’re usually on average about seven or eight weeks.
Radio Announcer: And what do they see on that first ultrasound? They can see the gestational sac where the baby is growing. You [00:33:00] can see the placenta, you can hear the heart beating. If you look closely, you can see the fingers, the toes, the hands, the arms, the feet, the legs. When the abortion pill is taken, the abortion pill called Opry Stone, it blocks a very important hormone called progesterone.
Radio Announcer: If you break down that big word, progesterone, this is the signal that comes from the body. As soon as she be a woman becomes pregnant, and progesterone is the progestational steroid. Hormone and it will block that hormone so the woman’s body says, congratulations. I can’t believe it. We’re pregnant, and the progesterone levels are going up.
Radio Announcer: Then a woman is either scared or she’s intimidated or forced to take the abortion pill or just misled. She takes the abortion pill and that signal is blocked and the progesterone levels start to drop, and that baby will die in probably less than [00:34:00] three days. When we talk about the products of conception that has now died on the inside of the womb, that is.
Radio Announcer: Baby. A baby that had a beating heart that is about the size of the end of my thumb that is growing and developing on the inside, but it’s also the fluid. It’s also the placenta. After you take the abortion pill, they also will have you take a contraction medication. The next day, 12 to 24 hours later, it’s called misoprostol.
Radio Announcer: Also known as cyto attack. It is a, uh, prostaglandin that causes fractions. We use this often in regular pregnancy to induce labor. When we induce labor, we will typically dose the mom with. 25 micrograms of this contraction medication. After the abortion pill. It’s not 25 micrograms that they are given. It is 800 micrograms that they are given.
Radio Announcer: So they have [00:35:00] severe contractions in order to pass the body of the baby, the placenta, and all that fluid. And 11% of the time there will be either a severe. Or life-threatening complication during this process.
Vicky Cherry: Can you tell me, doctor, if um, the baby is farther along than 10 weeks and this young girl takes, say a young girl takes a abortion pill, what is that gonna cause?
Vicky Cherry: A lot more issues.
Radio Announcer: Absolutely, which is when the abortion pill, even though the abortion pill is horrible from the very beginning, but when it was first, uh, made available and approved by the FDA, it was only indicated up to seven weeks pregnancy. It was only indicated if there was a physician who could do an ultrasound, not only to identify how far along that pregnancy was, but to be able to identify.
Radio Announcer: Where that pregnancy was, and that [00:36:00] physician also needed to be handled, able to be able to handle complications, which would be somebody who did not pass the baby and the placenta and all the fluid. Somebody who did get diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy, we know that. The average woman who has a positive pregnancy test who comes into their obstetrician will be off by at least four weeks, 35% of the time.
Radio Announcer: Mm-hmm. So women often do not know, uh, how far along they are and to show you the level of evil. This is not just something that is going on here in the United States. Last year there were 20. Six different articles that were published that showed how the abortion pill, by changing the dosing could effectively be used up to 28.
Radio Announcer: Gestation. So here in the United States, it’s being used up to 10 or 12 weeks gestation with approval. But we have a lot of women who are much [00:37:00] further along because they don’t know how far along they are. We have cases of women coming into the emergency rooms. They might be 14, 16 weeks pregnant, and they have taken the abortion pill, the baby.
Radio Announcer: Has died there on the inside, but the medicine, the contraction medication was not adequate. So they are coming in with a dead baby that needs to be managed by an obstetrician. This is not quality healthcare in any way, shape or form. Women deserve better. Babies are dying and women are being.
Bruce Cherry: Now, doctor, you said there’s an, there’s a reversal pill.
Bruce Cherry: We’re up against a break here. When we come back, can you share with us how that pill works and how people can get it?
Radio Announcer: Yeah, it’s real easy. First, they can contact the Abortion Pill Reversal network at apr abortion pill reversal.com.
Bruce Cherry: Okay, well hold ho the abortion. Hold on. Doctor, we’re, we’re up against a break.
Bruce Cherry: We’re gonna take a quick break and we’ll be right back. More with the Pro-Life doc. William Lile, [00:38:00] we thank you for joining us. We’ll be right back. More Pro-Life Radio. On a Sunday night on AM nine 50 FM 94.9, the answer.
Vicky Cherry: And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. We are on the air today with Pro-Life Dr. William Lidell live. Lile. Just Lile. Lile, I’m sorry. There you go. I’m sorry doctor. You
Bruce Cherry: know, I’m glad you did it. ’cause I’m the one who usually messes up the names so.
Vicky Cherry: Anyway, doctor, we were talking about the abortion pill and we started to talk about just before the break, about the, um, reversal pill.
Vicky Cherry: And a lot of people aren’t talking about that and, and we need to hear more about that. So if you could tell us more about that.
Radio Announcer: Absolutely. The abortion pill attacks, the hormone progesterone, the progestational steroid hormone and progesterone levels start to drop. Well, years ago, a family practice doctor [00:39:00] named Dr.
Radio Announcer: George Delgado was contacted by a patient who said, I took the abortion pill. I made a mistake. I have regrets. Is there an antidote? George is not an obstetrician, but he looked it up and he says this. Blocks the hormone progesterone. Let’s try giving you progesterone. And it was successful. So if the hormone levels were dropping, we give them progesterone progesterone’s available in every pharmacy.
Radio Announcer: We use it for all other different types of obstetrics. We use it to prevent preterm labor. Women who are pregnant and blessed to have triplets in quadruplets, almost all of them are placed on. Progesterone because it’s the progestational steroid hormone, and we will delay them going into labor. People who have had miscarriages repeatedly, often don’t have enough progesterone so we can.
Radio Announcer: Supplement the woman with progesterone that she takes right after she’s had her regrets and she [00:40:00] continues taking that progesterone twice a day until she’s about 14 weeks pregnant. We have been able to train 1000 doctors from coast to coast. Just last month we documented successful safe reversal, number 7,000.
Radio Announcer: Now we celebrate those 7,000, but there’s over 630,000 abortions each year with the abortion pill. But every life is precious, and this is probably one of the best examples of what it means to be redeemed, to be. Fought back. The mom made a bad decision. She recognizes this. She has remorse and repentance.
Radio Announcer: She looks for help and we provide her with the reversal medication. The antidote, my wife and I, and many pregnancy centers even will cover all the costs where we are literally buying back the life of the baby. It’s the best example of what it means to be redeemed that I [00:41:00] can think of. This is something that is active and it’s nationwide and it is available, and we have a team of nurses up in Columbus, Ohio that will man the hotline.
Radio Announcer: They’ll connect a patient with a pro-life obstetrician in their area, and we can reverse the effect. And here’s the key. When it comes to reversing the effect of the abortion pill, this is an all or none phenomenon. We see no evidence of any kind of birth defects or harm to the baby. It’s a red light or green light.
Radio Announcer: You’re either gonna be successful a hundred percent with the baby being healthy, that would be your green light. But about 30% of the time, sometimes 40% of the of the time, sadly. We’re not successful. What we do not see is a baby that has successfully had its life saved, but then is missing fingers or toes or as some sort of birth defect.
Radio Announcer: So a mom has nothing to lose, but to try to reverse the [00:42:00] effect of the abortion pill. And we have a thousand doctors nationwide who are waiting. To have lend assistance. I have attempted this 26 times. I’ve been successful 19 of those 26 times. Mm-hmm. And I have delivered healthy normal babies. I have my first baby that we were able to save the life of is now in third grade.
Radio Announcer: And I get pictures from these moms all the time. You know, it’d be great is to have
Vicky Cherry: that mom on the show one of these times. If you could. Maybe get with her and ask her if she would be on, that would be a story. We had lot of different
Radio Announcer: moms, in fact. Yeah. One of my most recent reversals, she was doing shows and she was telling her story and she, we were publishing that information.
Radio Announcer: But now her child is old enough to be involved with social media and her concern is she doesn’t want her dear son who she named William after me for being involved with it. She doesn’t want her. I know she doesn’t want her son William, to ever know. At least not yet.
Music: [00:43:00] Not yet. Mm-hmm.
Radio Announcer: That there was a point in her life where she tried to take the life of that baby.
Radio Announcer: Yeah. She says at some time when he’s older, she goes, of course I’m going to tell her. Yeah. But a lot of these moms, you know, will be happy to share their story, but then when they realize that their children will hear the story, they become understandably reluctant.
Vicky Cherry: Mm-hmm. How soon after taking the first the abortion pill does this other pill have to be taken?
Radio Announcer: We have about a 72 hour window where we can be still successful. Um, as long as they haven’t taken the contraction medication. We don’t have an antidote for the contraction medication, which is taken 12 to 24 hours later. I have had women call the hotline. Actually from the parking lot of the abortion clinic after they have swallowed the abortion pill because they have immediate regrets and they’re looking for help.
Radio Announcer: So the sooner we can start the reversal medication, the better. And the further along the [00:44:00] pregnancy was, the higher our rate of success because the progesterone levels continue to rise. And when a pregnancy is further along, there’s more progesterone already there. So the abortion pill becomes less effective.
Radio Announcer: But don’t forget, there are now 26 different studies which show how you can manipulate the dosing of the abortion pill and successfully cause an abortion up to 28 weeks gestation.
Music: Hmm.
Vicky Cherry: Terrific.
Bruce Cherry: Doctor, you mentioned the hotline a couple of times now. What is, what is that hotline? Is it a nationwide hotline?
Radio Announcer: It’s a nationwide toll-free number off the top of my head. I can’t remember it, but anybody can go to abortion pill reversal.com and they will be able to have that toll-free number. Nurses are manning that hotline and they can connect you geographically depending on where you live with a pro-life obstetrician who will get your information [00:45:00] and call in the reversal medication for you, and then establish a.
Radio Announcer: Follow up ultrasound with a doctor as soon as quick as possible.
Music: Amazing. And
Radio Announcer: this is a, this is a spiritual battle. I mean, this is not a matter of choice. This is an attack on the image of God in the womb. Genesis 1 26 says, we’re all created in the image of God, and that’s not on your birthday. That ons is on the day of your conception.
Radio Announcer: Amen. This is a spiritual attack for people who hate God and out of a hatred for God, want to attack the image of God. And so that is abortion at its core foundation. And yes, we mourn the loss of babies when it comes to surgical abortion, but this is the most common form of abortion, not just in the United States, but actually worldwide.
Radio Announcer: Mm-hmm. The abortion pill was developed by a gifted endocrinologist named et Emil [00:46:00] Balu. Who just passed away about two months ago at the ripe old age of 98. Mm-hmm. But when you look at what he did during his career. He is responsible for about 40 million abortions each year. Over the 25 years this has been available.
Radio Announcer: Mm-hmm. Et Emil Ballou’s creation is now responsible for over 1 billion deaths here in the United States. We look at the Holocaust and we mourn all 6 million of them, but now you have another individual responsible for 1 billion deaths, but. At the moment that Etti meal, Ballou died at the age of 98. He realized a couple of things.
Radio Announcer: He realized, number one, there is a God and there is a heaven. There is a hell. Mm-hmm. And I can’t imagine the wrath of God coming down on somebody who, as his crowning achievement with his intelligence, created something that has now taking the lives of 1 billion babies in the womb.
Bruce Cherry: All you can do is pray that, uh, he, [00:47:00] he asked for forgiveness.
Radio Announcer: That’s all we can do. That’s it. That’s it. And uh, but we survey just, and we serve a loving God. Mm-hmm. But he is just, and he is loving. Mm-hmm. And he loved us so much that he sent his son to live a perfect life, to give his life for us, and then was buried and dead for three days and miraculously conquered the grave rose again.
Radio Announcer: If we put our trust in him. All of our sins will be forgiven, and that includes the sin of abortion, you know, so it is amazing love that God would have. And it’s not just women. Every single pregnancy involves a guy. Well, there was one pregnancy that did not, it was 2000 years ago. And it hasn’t happened again since then.
Radio Announcer: But every pregnancy involves a man and a woman. And this is not just a problem outside of the church. There was a study done a couple of years ago funded by CareNet and lifeway, and they looked at all different denominations and when they surveyed people in these different [00:48:00] denominations. And women, they found that between 18 and 24% of all the men and the women who attend church at least once a month had personally been involved with an abortion.
Radio Announcer: Mm-hmm. And this is something that will affect the mental health of men, men and women. Sometimes for decades later, these individuals are hurting. They need healing. Healing comes from forgiveness, and true forgiveness only comes through the blood of Jesus Christ. So this is not an issue that should be led by obstetricians like myself or by politicians.
Radio Announcer: This is a spiritual battle with a spiritual cure, and this should not be obstetricians and politicians from podiums. This needs to be our pastors, priests and rabbis from their pulpits. That is how you have victory in the spiritual battle.
Bruce Cherry: Amen. Amen. And I have that number here for the hotline. The abortion pill reversal.com is the website.
Bruce Cherry: The hotline number is 8 7 [00:49:00] 7. 5, 5, 8, 0, 3, 3, 3. Again, 8, 7, 7, 5, 5, 8, 0, 3, 3, 3. And we’ll post that on our Pro-Life website as well, on pro life radio.com. So, uh, folks out there that, uh, you, you hear, hear this show and maybe you know someone who’s going through this right now, we want them to have that number. So Doctor, thank you very much for being on today.
Bruce Cherry: We appreciate it. I know how busy you are, so
Radio Announcer: You are, we are. You are. So welcome. I know we’re gonna schedule a follow up show. Yes. And we’re gonna show patients and that your listeners, how we treat the preborn as patients in the womb. We are now providing blood transfusions, open heart surgery, spina bifida, corrective surgery, even brain surgery for babies in the womb.
Radio Announcer: And a patient is a person no matter how small. And all patients have rights, including the preborn.
Bruce Cherry: All right. You can get in touch with the [00:50:00] Pro-Life doc@prolifedoc.org, or I’m sorry, uh, email, DR Lile, LIL e@prolifedo.org, and the website is prolife doc.org. Doctor, thank you so much. Please, uh, pass along our, uh, our, our respect and and admiration to your wife as well.
Bruce Cherry: And thank you for joining us.
Radio Announcer: Oh, it’s a honor to be with both you and Vicky and God bless you both. And thank you for standing up for God’s freeborn in the womb. Thank
Bruce Cherry: you. Thank you. You sir. Thank you. Alright, have a great night everyone. Thank you for joining us more Pro-Life Radio next week. And uh, thanks again for the donations that come in to keep the show on the air and more details on how you can.
Bruce Cherry: Contribute coming up on AM nine 50 FM 94.9, the answer streaming on the answer orlando.com. Goodnight and God [00:51:00] bless.