Pro-Life Radio with Captian Kathy McGinnis

Spectacular Memorial Day Pro-Life Radio Episode: Kathy McGinnis’s Journey of Faith, Service, and Redemption

Key Topics

**Personal Abortion Story and Healing**: Kathy McGinnis recounts her 1969 abortion at age 19, initial denial influenced by her mother, subsequent regret after seeing a formed embryo in nursing school, and long-term emotional impact resolved through grief and faith.

**Military Heritage and Service**: Extensive discussion of Kathy’s Army Captain role in Desert Storm, her multi-generational family military lineage (including Revolutionary War ties to the Swamp Fox), and her grandson’s recent West Point graduation.

**Pro-Life Advocacy and Current Events**: Coverage of Memorial Day reflections, dangers of unregulated abortion clinics (e.g., Colorado cases), psychological effects on women, and cultural issues like media influence and political violence against veterans.

**Faith and Ministry Elements**: Opening with Jeremiah 1:5, prayer for changing hearts, and emphasis on forgiveness through Christ.

Insights and Takeaways

Abortion creates lasting psychological effects that surface over time, often requiring active grieving for healing, as Kathy experienced two years post-procedure.

Military service embodies patriotism and sacrifice, with family traditions reinforcing duty, exemplified by Kathy’s late-life enlistment and her grandson’s ongoing service.

Societal denial about abortion’s realities (e.g., life at conception, clinic oversight failures) leads to widespread harm, including higher cancer and infertility rates, underscoring the need for truth-telling.

Faith provides redemption and purpose, enabling former abortion participants to become strong advocates while honoring veterans aligns with valuing all life.

Conclusions and Decisions

The episode concludes that all life matters, calling for persistent pro-life outreach, including regular clinic presence to support women and save babies.

Hosts and guest affirm ongoing ministry through Pro-Life Radio, Bible study, and community involvement to change hearts and minds.

Decision reached to expand direct action by scheduling monthly clinic sidewalk counseling and continuing guest stories to plant seeds of truth.

[ 00:00:00,000 ]Pro-Life Radio is a pre-recorded program paid for by Pro-Life Radio. Preserving the sanctity of life in Florida. A loud voice for the unborn. This is Pro-Life Radio with your hosts, Vicky and Bruce Cherry. And welcome to another edition of Pro-Life Radio on a Memorial Day weekend. Yes, happy Memorial Day. Kicking off summer. Have a blessed memorial, I guess, is the right way. Not happy, because it’s not a… I mean, it’s not a happy thought, that Memorial Day, but it’s definitely a very much important day to remember those that fought and died for our country. For this country, yeah. And we have one who served proudly our country, who’s been a guest on our show before, who has an abortion story to share. And, uh, and Well, we’ll get to her in just a second.

[ 00:00:50,350 ]We start off everything with Jeremiah 1:5 and prayer. Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set you apart. I appointed you a prophet to the nations. Heavenly Father, we come to you once again and ask for your blessing upon this radio show, this ministry, and all who hear this show, and our guests, our producer. God, thank you. Thank you for them. We pray for your blessings upon them. We pray that we be fruitful in changing hearts and minds, in sharing truth. And if there’s somebody out there, just one person out there that might be thinking about having an abortion, that we can change their mind. That we save that unborn baby. And that person helps to change hearts and minds as well.

[ 00:01:36,390 ]God, we ask for your blessing tonight and always. As we go forward, we thank you and praise you. In the name of your precious Son, Jesus Christ, amen. Amen. Amen. And we have in the studio tonight a great guest, a great friend of ours, a member of Liberty Church. Also a participant and member of our Bible study. And our life team. And our life team for Pro-Life Radio. And Kathy McGinnis. And she’s a really good cook, too. And she is a very good cook. She said, ‘Yes.’ If you want to come to a great Bible study and have an awesome meal, Kathy always has something just incredible. She does. I experiment on you. Thank you. Uh-oh. Not really.

[ 00:02:23,930 ]And Kathy is a captain, well, a former captain of the United States Army, and you come from a long line of military royalty, so to speak. Yeah. And an advancing line. Yes. You have a grandson? Yes. A West Point graduate, so he’s now an officer. Right, and he’s stationed at Fort Bliss. And he’s with the Armor Division. That’s what Fort Bliss is. Mm-hmm. And he’s due to go overseas to Poland with his tanks. He said that it’s been… called a speed bump for Russia to keep Russia. Ed Bay. Keep them honest. Yes. Like producer Dave said, what was it you said earlier, Dave? Oh, something to the effect of, you know, glowers ominously at Russia. Yes. Right. Just let them know. Yeah. We got eyes on you. We’re watching you.

[ 00:03:29,600 ]We’re watching you. There you go. We think he’s going to be okay. Now, you were Army, a captain. Right. My dad. His dad? And his dad’s dad. And. It dates back to revolutionary times, actually. Uh, we have um, I forget his name. My son that knows all this, he’s done all this research on our family. We knew some of it, but… I remember when I was younger, when I was a kid, my dad would talk about the swamp fox, that somehow we were involved with swamp fox. Well, it turns out we have an ancestor. I don’t know. If it was an uncle or what, but he trained the Swamp Fox. And so. When the British took our ancestor prisoner out on the sea, on their ship, the Swamp Fox made sure that they freed him and rescued him.

[ 00:04:31,980 ]So that’s how much they… respected him. It started pretty early. And so when I joined the Army, I was 40. And there was not a plan for a career because of my age. And so, you know, you sign up. Um, Well, you acknowledge that you would not be eligible for retirement, which is fine with me. I just wanted to serve my country. I had no idea we were going to. He called up for Desert Storm. It was a year. Surprise! It was a year later than I was, and I had just gotten married, too. Like a month, right? You got called out a month after you were married? When we went on our honeymoon, we were headed up by four, and all these… Um, Army. Military vehicles. Yeah, military vehicles.

[ 00:05:22,060 ]Envoy. We’re all a different color for the first time. Sandy colored. Like, what’s going on? So we get to our hotel and the news is telling us all about. I, you know, We’re going to war. Desert. Well, they didn’t say desert. Shield at that point. Mm-hmm. But that’s what we were called up for initially and then became Desert Storm. And our unit was… We were sent out to all the medical centers because I’m still a nurse, but I was an Army nurse, and I was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. So I was called up for essentially 11 months. So that’s why I’m a veteran now. Wow. So that was the first time. Good. That the reserves were used like they were. You know, my mom also went into the army late in life.

[ 00:06:16,000 ]My father and mother both were in the army, but my mom went in the army like 15 years after my dad got out. Oh. And she went in late in life. She was… If she were alive, she’d kill me for saying this, but I’m sure she was in her 40s when she went in. And, uh, but—and I think she might have fudged a little bit on her age. I’m not sure. My mom was the kind of lady that… We had explicit instructions when she passed away. Her birth date with the year was not to go on her headstone. Thank you. Or in her obituary. So we were kind of unsure about what her actual age was when she died. But when she passed away, even though she had passed away from cancer, she looked incredibly young.

[ 00:07:02,560 ]Mm-hmm. And so that was her thing. She took pride in that. She took pride in that, and that was her thing. And she’s like, nobody needs to know how old I am or any of that stuff. Well, I tell everybody how old I am because I look young for my age. You look very young for your age. So Kathy served our country. How many children do you have? I have four children, and my husband had one, so he was left behind with five kids. After a month after marriage. Yeah. And we hadn’t even moved into our house we had built. And your husband is a veteran also, correct? Paul is a veteran. But I’m a higher rank. He was enlisted. He was a sergeant. I hope you bring that up often.

[ 00:07:40,690 ]Oh, we do. What did I tell you to do? But he’s fun. We laugh about it. He’s a really good guy. And her husband, Paul, is a great guy. He’s also a member of our church. And when we can, when we can pry him out, we get him to our Bible study. But I love him to death. He’s a great guy. He’s also from Kentucky like you. I know, I know. And they’re like all the same things. But see, he went to the University of Kentucky. Yeah. And so you guys are rivals. I went to the University of Louisville, so we’re kind of rivals a little bit, but we love each other. So that’s good. So, okay, Kathy, we had you on the show. A year ago? Probably a year ago.

[ 00:08:16,550 ]At least a year ago. Yeah. And your story. You had an abortion. Uh-huh. When I was 19. When you were 19. I was in college. And, um, I was about to… transfer from the University of Maryland to Harrisburg. Uh, hospital. School of Nursing. And Um. I was. Living at home, of course. And I… Really had, we shook up about this. I mean, I was like. I just can’t believe that I’m pregnant, you know, and I wasn’t promiscuous. I had a, you know, I wasn’t like I. Made this sport like they do now. About premarital sex. And, um, So I just didn’t know what to do. Confided in my parents. And my uh The father of my children, my future husband. Uh. He knew.

[ 00:09:16,720 ]But then I lied to him and told him, oh, I fell off a horse. Oh, my goodness. So we never knew about it until later. But, you know, I just did what my parents advised. And back then they had therapeutic abortions. My mother was a nurse with seven kids, and she was like, ‘Promoting and Catholic and promoting an abortion.’ So. Anyway, we need what it was that therapeutic abortions. What is that in Maryland? Well, you had to see a psychiatrist, two psychiatrists who. you would talk to about… Peace. Situation you’re in. I don’t think you told us that last time. Yeah, I don’t think I did either. Yeah, that is… It was the 19… I was 19 years old. 70? No, 69. Okay. Yes, they had therapeutic abortions in Maryland.

[ 00:10:14,280 ]Just so you know, you just put your age on on the radio to everybody. Oh, that’s all right. Because there’s people out there right now going… Oh, shit. She doesn’t care. She does not look anything like her age. No, not at all. If you’ve ever met Kathy. But that amazes me because, you know, there is probably not one state where you’d go through that now, especially Maryland. Maryland is so liberal. A therapeutic abortion where you had to talk to a psychiatrist, two psychiatrists. Yeah, two of them. Oh, my goodness. I guess I was crazy. But, um, so what was the… I was very upset emotionally. Yeah. Just a lot. What am I going to do? I can’t go to nursing school. Do you think that they did that to help?

[ 00:10:53,230 ]People to have an abortion then. Sure. To feel better about it. Yeah. But, and it didn’t really bother me, bother me. I was like. Because my mother convinced me it was just a little marble. It’s not a baby. And you will, when we come back from our upcoming break. We’ll need to explain what happened then after you figured out what the truth was. Yeah. We have Kathy McGinnis with us, a former Army officer, a captain, a nurse who served in Desert Storm, a resident of Central Florida, and part of our pro-life team. And she’s sharing her story with us again. And we also are just… paying homage to our military on this Memorial Day weekend. It’s Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. Thank you for joining us. When we come back… I’m going to tell you about… Trump derangement syndrome carried way too far. We’ll have those details coming up next. Pro-Life Radio on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900.

[ 00:12:23,020 ]Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening, Memorial Weekend. So with us in the studio, well, first I better say Bruce, my handsome husband. To me. Thank you. Thank you, dear. How much will I get this time? No. Thank you. Well, we’ll talk about it. And we didn’t mention earlier that in the studio is also my sister that is moved here from Montana. But across from me is Kathy McGinnis, a good, good friend of ours. She is a… Army veteran. Captain. Captain. From a long line of military, of army. Yeah, all Army. They were all officers. And now her grandson graduates from. From West Point. From West Point. All graduates from West Point.

[ 00:13:16,730 ]Oh, wow. Did you go to West Point also? No. Oh, okay. All right. But my grandson did. Your grandson did. Your grandfather did. Your dad did. Your grandfather did. Your great-grandfather did. Mm-hmm. Wow. And your great, your great. great-grandfather. or great-great-great-grandfather. Help train the swamp fox. Right. Which was, um, Revolutionary War, Francis Marion. Right. The Swamp Fox. Yes. Very cool. Who used guerrilla tactics against British forces in South Carolina. God bless you. Successfully. So as we talk about veterans, there is another Army veteran that kind of Bruce alluded to earlier. As we went to break. A 69-year-old Army Veteran. in Escondido, California. Had a house called the Trump House. He loved Trump and he loved, he’s a patriot. And he had flags, American flags and Trump flags as for years.

[ 00:14:18,120 ]And his neighbor, 32-year-old, beat him up so badly he is in the ICU right now. and more than likely is not expected to make it. And that’s that plain and simple Trump derangement syndrome. Absolutely. Because here’s the thing. So Kerry Sharon was the Army veteran, is the Army veteran, 69 years old, fighting for his life. And I’ve seen the pictures, and you’ve seen them. Oh, yeah. He was beat up so bad. So bad. He’s got tubes in and out of his nose and his mouth, and he really is. It will be God’s blessing if he makes it. Yeah. And how anybody thinks that they have the right to do that to somebody just because they have a flag. Thank you. Thank you. Well, here’s the really sick thing.

[ 00:15:06,350 ]The guy who assaulted him, 32-year-old Thomas Caleb Butler, is a Navy veteran. Somebody who served this country. Yeah, they’re trying to say that he had PTSD. Yeah, whatever. Whatever. PTSD, TDS, whatever. Why would you think you have the right to beat somebody up simply because they’re exercising their right? to express themselves. especially as a veteran. You know, you know, that’s what you’re living and dying for. That’s what Memorial weekend is all about. And the remembrance of those people that fought and died for us. And he goes and takes it upon himself to kill somebody, or more than likely. I mean, so be praying. Be praying for this man. Pray for the man who’s in ICU, but also pray for this other guy, because something’s gotten a hold of him, and it’s just…

[ 00:15:55,590 ]It’s, wow. So, you know, the show is about… Pro-life. But it’s about all life because all life matters. And so, while we don’t want to see Kerry Sharon, the Army veteran, we don’t want to see him die from this. Um, We also are saddened by the fact that this Navy veteran, Thomas Caleb Butler, is so whacked out that he… He. hates Donald Trump so much that he went and just… Yeah. tried to kill his neighbor. Mm-hmm. You know, there’s a lot of craziness going on. I was showing Bruce and Kathy earlier about a 13-year-old girl in Colorado had written a poem and wanted to read it for a class. Everybody else was writing poems and reading them. Hers was about pro-life, and they would refuse to let her read that poem.

[ 00:16:50,420 ]And she’s fighting it. Oh, good. So it’s just, yeah. It’s like, okay, if you don’t want to hear her poem, leave the room. Or just, you know, do what you do all the time. Just don’t pay attention. Is it really that, you know, it’s nothing that you’re going to have to worry about. You know, it’s probably not the kids in the class that don’t want to hear the poem. It’s the teacher. It was the teacher. Yeah. So there you go. So let’s get back to it. Kathy was in the middle of her story. Yes. She thought it was just a… Just a little clump of cells, her mom told her. And you discover that wasn’t the case. Right. Well, I went on to nursing school. Harrisburg Hospital. Um.

[ 00:17:35,050 ]And in the first year, anatomy and physiology class. They had these Um… Our professor had the embryos from the time of conception, basically. Like in little containers. Right, in little containers. And I was 11 weeks pregnant when I had my abortion. And I saw… the embryo that was fully formed. And it just, I was like, ‘Oh my gosh.’ What did I do? So it took two years. I was in school. There for it to really affect me. And it just snowballed. And I got so disturbed over it. And I wasn’t really coping for some reason. I actually had to take leave of absence from school. Um, and I… I was asking my psych instructor, nurse instructor. I didn’t ask her.

[ 00:18:40,990 ]I was just telling her I think I’m really upset over what I did. And she said, ‘Oh, no, that’s not true.’ And it was only by, I just, just. Didn’t pay attention to it. I knew she didn’t understand. Well, it was like I knew what I was experiencing. And the… the more the morning the um Grief. that I allowed myself to experience is what healed me. Although I still. It never leaves you. Yeah. Great. Of course there’s guilt, but I… And I know God, Jesus has forgiven me. It doesn’t matter. I know. I did wrong. End. I had four kids. I couldn’t have enough kids, you know. Thank you. And it just never replaces. What’s done. So you never. You know, when you get an abortion.

[ 00:19:37,330 ]It affects you for life. I read a thing just earlier today. I think it was from Frank Pavone. From Priests for Life. And he said, ‘Can you imagine? How much psychological damage in the next 10 to 15 years we’re going to be seeing from all these women. That have had abortions and realize what they’ve done, just like what you did, Kathy. You can’t escape it. Unless you’re immoral or… Sociopathic or something. At some point or another, it’s going to wear on you. At some point or another, it will wear on you. Or you’ll realize, as you look back. That’s what I’m saying.’ At some point or another, you’ll realize. And my mother was like, ‘What are you talking about?’ That’s ridiculous. You know, and I didn’t— it didn’t matter what anybody said.

[ 00:20:25,100 ]I knew, you know, it’s always possible that your mom didn’t know as well. Could be. Was your mom a nurse? Yeah, she was a nurse. She was a nurse. And let me tell you, she had… She. It was another one that. had a lot of kids. I mean, she, and she had seven children. And five miscarriages. And she’s had miscarriages up to five months, I think. Mm-hmm. And so she had to know something. Yeah. So I don’t know. Oh, she was probably trying to protect you. I think there’s a blindness, like we’ve talked about in the Bible, especially in the latter days. People will not see the truth. They’ll be blinded. Yeah. And I think that’s what’s going on with abortion. Thank God there’s a few. A few very strong, like Kelsey Grammer.

[ 00:21:13,880 ]We were just talking about Kelsey Grammer that he had a T-shirt on. Mm-hmm. And it said, ‘Would it be better, would it bother us more if we used guns? For abortions.’ Yeah. Yeah. Would it bother us more if we use guns? And then it said ‘Abort73 . com.’ I don’t know what that site is. I don’t know if we went to that and looked. I did go to the site, and it has a lot of information about abortion on it. Abort73. com. And that was a shirt that Kelsey Grammer. So I love it when we see the truth from people that are so deceived, usually in that Hollywood world. Yeah. It’s just crazy. So you forgave your mom. Oh yeah. I knew that she just didn’t understand.

[ 00:22:07,920 ]It was saving face for the family. I’m sure, too, that motivated her. And that you were only 19. Yeah. And. You know, the… rationale was well: Nuns, they got pregnant and they would be allowed to have an abortion or the Catholic Church approved of it. So I’m sure the Catholic Church is going to approve of this. Even though we never got any. I mean, we didn’t talk to a priest. About this. So you were a Catholic at the time? Yes, and the Catholic Church also. Didn’t, uh… Didn’t shed a whole lot of light on the abuse that priests were putting on children either. Right. Well, and what Kathy just said is huge there. The nuns were getting pregnant. I thought that was the whole point of being a nun.

[ 00:22:54,010 ]You were celibate. Yeah, well. It was like, oh, they got raped. Oh. You know. But, I mean, I have two brothers that were molested by me. Priests too. Via R. parish priest Here in Orlando? No, Maryland. Silver Spring, Maryland. Okay, Maryland. And that… Was not known, though, at the time of my situation. It was dealt with at the Catholic Church. Yeah, it’s all documented. We saw a very interesting movie. I was just going to bring that up. This is getting off track here, but I’m going to share this. If you get a chance, look for a movie called Spotlight. Michael Keaton heads up an all-star cast, and it deals with the molestation that was going on in the Catholic Church they thought was confined to a parish or two in Boston, and come to find out it was a worldwide phenomenon.

[ 00:23:51,730 ]So check that out. It’s called Spotlight. We saw it on Tubi. I think it was Tubi. Yeah, it was on Tubi. And not to bash the Catholic Church. No, because it’s not just the Catholic Church. It’s happening everywhere. We need to have light on that, and I think that’s a great name for it, Spotlight. Yeah. If there’s something nefarious going on, it needs to come out to the light and be taken out. All truth will be made known to us. Amen. Any sin that is done in darkness will see the light of day. All right. It will happen. Hey, we’ve got more Pro-Life Radio coming up on a Sunday night, Memorial Day weekend. Thank you for joining us. We’ll be right back, streaming on TheAnswerOrlando. com. This is Pro-Life Radio on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900.

[ 00:25:04,790 ]Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you.

[ 00:25:16,300 ]Welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night, Memorial Day weekend. And we have in the studio my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry. The world’s greatest sister-in-law, Debbie, who will not talk on the air, but she’s relocated here from Montana, so we’re trying to keep her busy with doing a lot of stuff, and so we drag her along with us to things. He’s like, where are we going this weekend? Well, we’re going to go do the radio show. And also we have Captain. Can I refer to you still as Captain? Oh, yeah. Okay. Captain Kathy McGinnis. Kathy was an Army captain and served in… Desert Storm. Mm-hmm. And lives here in Central Florida. And is sharing her abortion story with us. This is the second time we’ve had Kathy on the show.

[ 00:26:02,320 ]Every time we find out a little bit more, and we found out a little bit more before we get into that though. Um, Earlier this week, Operation Rescue and Life Legal Defense Foundation. made national news. And what they did was, they finally obtained an unredacted autopsy report for a young lady. You may have heard her name. Lexi Arguello, a young girl who died from a catastrophic complication after a late-term abortion. At Planned Parenthood in Fort Collins, Colorado. Now, Lexi, they think, is not the only woman to have fallen victim to the Colorado abortion clinics. You see, Colorado had their amendment for, and it went through. And what we were afraid of happening here in Florida is happening there. Because they cannot even inspect. The abortion clinics there, the state.

[ 00:26:55,320 ]And the Board of Health cannot inspect the abortion clinics there. Because they have no legal founding, because of that amendment. So what they found out is… because of the radical abortion policies within the state. Countless injuries and intentional lack of oversight, coupled with overly redacted public records by city officials. Operation Rescue spent over a year gaining access to Lexi’s unredacted autopsy, a record that law clearly states must be made available to the public without hidden information. But yet they’re redacting it. A court order finally forced the Larimer County coroner to release the full record. And mistakes were made. Well, you know, if you’re trying to make money at an abortion clinic, you’re trying to cut corners, and so when we do not take the precautions to make sure that these places are operating clean, there needs to be clean.

[ 00:27:52,920 ]I mean, you’re doing… Not to mention the fact that a late-term abortion is dangerous. It is dangerous. And that is why we fought so hard to make sure Amendment 4 didn’t happen here. But in Colorado, it happened. We know it happened in Montana, your home state. And there’s other states that are trying to go down the same path— not being honest about the ramifications of what an abortion does, and the problems that you’ll have after, and so many people. Have addiction issues, suicide issues. Higher cancer rates. It’s just— it’s, and people out there listening might think, ‘How can you have higher cancer rates?’ A woman’s body is meant to reproduce. If she becomes pregnant. If you stop that process or you meddle with that process, you change something.

[ 00:28:47,780 ]That has ramifications. Thank you. Anything we put into our bodies, whether male or female, everything changes us to a certain degree. If you take an aspirin, it changes you— to a certain degree, at least for a little while. So everything that we put into our body. But you’re involving hormones, which is a big deal. Yeah. And so, if you stop the process of childbearing prematurely, it can cause increased breast cancer rates, increased ovarian cancer, cervical cancer, and uterine cancer—those sorts of things. And letting these clinics just operate with no supervision. You know that they’re cutting corners. Oh, sure. They’re trying to make as much money as possible. You know, it’s just if the hospital, same thing, you know. People like. They don’t follow the rules.

[ 00:29:36,090 ]They want to make more money as fast as they can. And you figure these people, I mean, really, if that’s your business, go in. and tear apart babies so are they are they destroyed destroying the baby before or after the Well, it depends. If it’s a partial birth abortion, they try and keep the baby intact as long as they can, which means they try to keep the baby alive as long as they can while they harvest parts from the baby. So if it’s just an abortion. livers, brains, hearts, lungs, kidneys, eyes. They try and get as much as they can out of it. Mmm. I mean, you can look up during the Obama administration. you could look up and they were selling parts. The administration was selling parts.

[ 00:30:25,660 ]And it gave prices of how much they could get for each part. And you’re like, okay, this is pure. If people cannot open their eyes and see that. People don’t want to. They don’t want to, and I think that it is part of the plan of the Bible working its way out. It said people would become blinded. Yeah, I mean, it affects the psyche so… to such a degree that human beings just cannot handle the truth. No. No. Uh, it. It takes time. Especially this vast issue. I mean, people are… abortions are so rampant now. You’ve got every day. I don’t know what the number is. Bruce, do you know? I’ve not heard recently, but it’s a high number of how many babies are put to death daily in just the United States.

[ 00:31:17,380 ]Well, I know that it was discovered that more babies have died in abortion. Since Roe v. Wade. Then all human life has died in war since. Since the founding of America. Than all humans that have died in war. Since the founding of America. Yeah. So that’s like. I mean, it’s mind-boggling. It’s huge. And like you said, Kathy. Ah. We can’t. We just can’t work that through in our brain. No, we can’t. When you really realize that’s a human being and how many people are killing. Their own children. Yeah. But, you know, I think about it. For me too. Come to this. The realization when I was 20, 21. about the truth of my abortion. It was actually a blessing because. Just think how messed up I would be.

[ 00:32:12,690 ]If I held all that in and never really acknowledge the truth. It’s not good for us, but it has to come in stages. Uh, I’m sure, you know, um, But still. We need to be planting seeds. And dripping out the truth enough where people… The public can handle the truth. And just never give up, you know, just. comes straight out, this is wrong. But that was not the case back for me back when, in 1969. You didn’t even talk about abortion. It was like a no-no. Mm-hmm. And that was before Roe v. Wade. Mm-hmm. I think it was one of those things that a lot of people did it. Undercover. Because they knew. And it wasn’t accepted like it is now. Yeah, it wasn’t accepted.

[ 00:33:09,640 ]It seems that, as of November of 2025, they were estimating nearly 3,000 pre-born babies died by abortion every day in America. That death toll is likely far greater than that. Because they were looking at abortions in… abortuary clinics, surgical procedure abortions, and now, because of the abortion pill, it could be much, much, much higher than that. We are losing people. Faster than we’re gaining people now in our society. You know, there’s not as many births as there are deaths. You know, at some point or another, history is going to look back and say, what happened? To these people. You know. America. And, and. other places in the world because it, yeah. We have higher rates now of intertility. because of abortion in the water.

[ 00:34:11,320 ]Okay, so those remnants and those hormones are finding their way into our drinking water. And so… There are higher rates of men. Who can’t? Produce. Reproduce. Higher rates of women who can’t reproduce. Then you’ve got a lot of. kids now that younger people now they’re like Oh, the planet’s overpopulated. I’m not going to have children because who would bring a child into this world? God put us here to procreate. to procreate. You know, You need to know that. Procreate meaning? Have more children. Have more babies. And they’re a blessing. Yeah. But our society, I think, part of it is, has gotten so selfish. It’s all about me. It’s all about I want every dime I make to go to me and the fun I can have.

[ 00:35:01,890 ]I don’t want to have to support a child. But that’s really when we grow up, right? Exactly. If you look at the way the family is designed. Yeah. You get older, you get married, then you’re responsible for your spouse kind of thing. And then you have kids and you’re responsible for them. And that makes us less. I have to say, my life is infinitely better now that I’ve had children. Than before when I was single. And just living my life, partying and going to bars. Bruce told me a while back, he goes, I wish we would have met when I was 24. And he goes, you probably wouldn’t have liked me when I was 24. I said, why? What’s wrong? He goes, I didn’t care about anybody but myself.

[ 00:35:43,080 ]My career, my job, you know, my everything. And, you know, honestly, I can say my life is so much better now that I’ve got children. We’ve got grandchildren. There is a point I think about when my kids were teens that, did I? What was that famous Christian guy, he would say when they become 16, you do this, this, and this. When they’re 16, put them in a big barrel with an IP pole, and that’s it. Right, right. Look out, send some food in every now and then, that sort of thing. And we’ve got another break coming up, and we will have our final segment. This goes by so fast. It does. We’ll have our final segment of the night. It’s Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday, Memorial Day weekend. Thank you for joining us. God bless. We’ll be right back on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900. Road 455, Unit 107-334, Claremont, Florida 34711. Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you.

[ 00:37:06,870 ]And welcome back to Purple Life Radio on a Sunday evening, Memorial Weekend. In the studio, I’m Vicky Cherry. And my handsome husband, Bruce, is across from me. And thank you to all the veterans out there. Who are listening to the show and those who aren’t listening to the show, thank you. Because our freedom exists because… Well, God gave us the freedom, but you guys protect it. And we thank you for that. And we thank our guest, who is Captain Kathy McGinnis, nurse. and served in Desert Storm. It comes from a… a line of, Fine. Army officers. All right. Your grandson, who just graduated from… West Point. West Point. And can you say his name? Yeah. Brandon McDermott. Brandon McDermott. And he is now a lieutenant? He’s a second lieutenant.

[ 00:38:00,550 ]Second lieutenant. They graduate as second lieutenants. Okay. I remember when you and Paul went up for his graduation. Yeah. I remember we met him, actually. You brought him to church one Sunday. Right, right. And what a fine young man. Yeah. And he was just baptized. Um, but About a month ago. Oh, wow. And he wants to actually be a chaplain, but that’ll have to come later. Very cool. Nice. Very nice. Well, God bless him. And so your family, I mean, going back a couple of hundred years, you guys have all been Army officers. Right. And you know. Uh. When um our The Jervis first came over in the 1700s. They came to Charleston, South Carolina, and that’s where all the actors were. Has been, even with the Revolutionary War, with the Swamp Fox and our…

[ 00:39:03,560 ]ancestor who trained Swamp Fox Francis what’s it what’s his name Francis uh and I closed that window anyway. Oh, I’ll get it. My son did all this research. I knew about it as a growing up, but not the detail that my son got. Oh, and he’s so… Francis Marion. Yeah, Francis. What did I say? Francis? You said Francis. Oh, okay. We didn’t have the last name. Francis Marion. Yeah. So um, when I decided to join the army, my dad. That was back in 19… Um… 88, I think. And my dad said, ‘Whatever possessed you to join the army?’ As your dad stood there in a military uniform looking at you. Yeah, right. And uh, because you know, I was just—I had four kids and I was, you know, basically single.

[ 00:39:55,500 ]And, um, I said, ‘It’s got to be in the genes, the family genes.’ And I had not met anyone, any nurses, that had. Join the uh arming for the reasons that I did, which was just strictly patriotic. So… I mean, I’m sure there was. Or some curses, but I didn’t meet them. So that’s what was the driving force for me. And I remember. Sending home a letter during Desert Storm. Quoting President John F. Kennedy, it’s not what your country can do for you, but it’s what you can do for your country. Amen. And that’s what was the driving force for me. Um. So even though you had to go a month up, there is an article that Kathy showed us. She brought her wedding book.

[ 00:40:45,990 ]And I wish you guys could see, but in it is a picture of their wedding. and a month later, that a month later she was called to duty, so she did mention earlier that her new husband had to take on five kids. Yeah, his own. daughter, and my four kids. But he was proud. to do that, he always wanted a bunch of kids, but he just kind of threw was thrown at him. Even on our honeymoon, we knew something was happening. Something was coming. I even called my chief nurse. Find out, are we going to be called up? Oh, not so far. Well, came back after our honeymoon and… And it’s, oh no, it’ll be fine. Then the week later we were called up. We were actually. I was actually called up.

[ 00:41:30,240 ]Two weeks after, but we didn’t leave. Until the 27th of August. From the 4th. We were married the 4th. The 4th of July? No, the 4th of August. Oh, 4th of August. Okay, I’m sorry. August 26th, actually, is when… we left. How much notice did they give you? Couple of weeks. But we didn’t know from day to day. You know, we had to be prepared immediately, 24-hour notice, basically. We’re talking with Captain Kathy McGinnis, a nurse, a mom, a Christian, a member of our pro-life team. And a woman who had undergone an abortion procedure at the age of 19. and now takes a very strong stance for pro-life, and we thank her for that. Thanks for being here with us and sharing your story. And I interrupted you, and I apologize, so keep on.

[ 00:42:20,390 ]But, you know, like I said earlier. You can never forget what you’ve gone through with an abortion. The grieving is so important to go through. If you’ve had an abortion, it is very healing. But you never really get— completely healed, I mean. It’s like you experience a death. You know, just know two ways about it. And anybody that is contemplating an abortion, I warn them. You know, I do everything I can. Although I do need to, I feel like I really do need to stand by these abortion clinics and speak to these young girls. We’ll set it up. Yeah, it’s time. Well, have you come join us? We do that. We do that. And, you know, we’ve been talking. Talking about our team, last meeting we had about doing that.

[ 00:43:16,980 ]I know. At least once a month. On a more regular basis, yeah. At least once a month. Because it is, it’s that last, I know Michelle from. Pro-Life Action Ministries. That is their ministry, and they feel like that’s their last-ditch effort to save that mother. And her child. And you know, at their banquet a couple of weeks ago, they had a few moms there, but one of the moms they had there, they had talked to outside a clinic. She had come out, was in tears. She didn’t speak English. And fortunately, they had someone there that did speak Creole. I think it was Creole or Haitian. And so they spoke with her and translated. And they got her to go next door to the. To the women’s… To the Choices Women’s…

[ 00:44:03,480 ]Life Choice. Life Choice is a women’s clinic. And she came out, she thanked them. And she kept her baby. And she was there the other night on stage with her baby. Bruce was worried she was going to, she threw the baby up in the air. Bruce was like, oh, don’t do that. How bad would that have been? Oh, my goodness. And just a darling baby. And it was just a great, great testament. A great testament. We’re getting low on time. I want to give honor to your lineage. Your father, he was an Army general? No, my father was an armed… He retired when he was a colonel. Colonel, okay. And his father retired when he was a colonel, too, and went to… Where? West Point? West Point.

[ 00:44:51,450 ]Went to West Point, yeah. Went to West Point and his father went to West Point. And. Um, that’s. This is Henry Jervie, my great-grandfather. Okay. Who, um, Received. Um, I was showing you this. He got a medal, didn’t he? Yeah. Um, I mean, there’s all kinds of. stuff on him. You just look up Henry Jervie. How do you spell the last name? J-E-R-B-E-Y. Okay, so that’s your maiden name, Jervie. Okay. And. He, um… He would spend. Endless hours. I mean, he wouldn’t go home till midnight. He works so hard. In the War Department during World War I. Hmm. And, um, Hey. He just never would stop working. To mobilize the troops. For overseas. And, um, So I was going to read this from the… article.

[ 00:45:51,690 ]Well, you go ahead and find that and why you’re finding that. Another actress is coming out, too, for abortion, which is awesome. For abortion? I mean, for life. I’m sorry. For life. Kathy Ireland. Oh, okay. And I thought, well, that’s pretty great, too. If we can get more of those people, we can… We’ve got to change hearts and minds. Because you’ve got this generation, you’ve got the Taylor Swifts of the world telling women it’s their right, young girls, and they pattern their lives after these people. And so they think, ‘Oh, well, Taylor Swift says it’s okay. It must be okay.’ Here’s what Kathy Ireland said. ‘It was science that led me to understand that life begins at the moment of conception. And it is a human being at the moment of conception.

[ 00:46:40,790 ]I think once you know the truth and you know a human being’s life is in danger. Nothing else matters. Absolutely. Absolutely.’ Did you find what you’re looking for? So after. General Jervis’ death. General Peyton C. March, Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army. During the greater part of the First World War, wrote this. Henry Jervie was not only my classmate, but in later years, my warm personal friend. When I returned from France in 1918 to become Chief of Staff of the Army, I found him serving on the general staff. I made many changes in personnel, but Jervie… stayed and became more and more valuable. As chief of operations, he had work of the most important character to do.

[ 00:47:36,700 ]And in spite of some physical weaknesses, he never missed a day, and the days lasted till midnight every day, including Sunday. He had an unusually good mind, a wonderfully devoted to duty, and gave all he had every day, all day. My classmate friendship warmed into a rare affection for one of the finest characters as well as one of the ablest officers with whom I was fortunate to serve. And he was so modest he never received the public notice his work deserved, and he passed on respected by all who knew him. Wow. Amen. Zoiets. You come from a fine line of tradition of patriots. Mm-hmm. who’ve served this country. And for that, we thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciating. Illiniate. Huh? We appreciate the lineage and…

[ 00:48:35,980 ]And it shows because you are a caring, giving. Generous. person. And we love you. Thank you very much. Yes, we do. Thanks. And your cooking. And your cooking is great, yes. So if you want to come to a Bible study, we have a Bible study. With great dinner. Yeah. Monday nights. Yes. Hey, this— Except for— Except for this Monday night. No, because we’re taking a break for Memorial Day. Hey, that’s going to do it for Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. Thank you to Dave DeRica in the control room there, our producer. Thank you to the world’s greatest sister-in-law for being our live in-studio audience. Debbie, thank you. We could have her hoot and holler next time. There you go. To my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry, I’m Bruce Cherry saying thank you.

[ 00:49:18,000 ]You. Please help us keep this ministry funded and on the air. Details are coming up for that. We’re here on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. We’ll see you again next week. Good night. God bless. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900. Road 455, Unit 107-334, Claremont, Florida 34711. Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax deductible. Thank you. You’ve been listening to Pro-Life Radio, a strong voice for the unborn in Florida, with Vicky and Bruce Cherry. Connect with Vicky and Bruce online at ProLifeRadio. com. And join us again next week at this very same time for Pro-Life Radio. Pro-Life Radio is a pre-recorded show.