Pro-Life Radio with Michele Herzog
Pro-Life Radio: Defending the Unborn – Key Insights from Hosts Vicky & Bruce Cherry and Guest Michelle Herzog
Key Topics
**Stephenthen Holland’s Testimony and Health Crisis**: Discussion of his conception via gang rape of his mentally challenged mother, his pro-life ministry “Broken, Not Dead,” recent heart attack, and urgent call for donations (P.O. Box 2561, Muscle Shoals, AL 35662; GoFundMe).
**Stories of Rape-Conceived Survivors**: Testimonies of Stephen Thin, Cheryl Hadley, Rebecca Kiesling, and Gianna Jensen (abortion survivor with cerebral palsy) to counter “rape/incest exceptions.”
**Florida Abortion Statistics**: 48,175 abortions in 2025 (down from 80k+ in 2023), equating to 178/day; shift to chemical abortions; lack of oversight at 6-week limit.
**Personhood and Legal Reforms**: Push to restore unborn personhood rights (pre-Roe v. Wade status); critique of current laws (e.g., drunk driving bills with exclusions); equal justice for all killers (mothers, doctors, etc.).
**Abortion Industry Critique**: Chemical pills’ horrors, Big Pharma profits, organ harvesting, vaccines, environmental pollution (DNA/hormones in water), hiding sin/affairs, satanic child sacrifice.
**Planned Parenthood’s Racist Roots**: Margaret Sanger’s targeting of Black communities; 50% of NY Black babies aborted.
**Pro-Life Event Promotion**: Pro-Life Action Ministries’ 45th Annual Life Banquet on May 12th (407-230-2557; prolifeaction.org).
**Personal Regrets and Church Apathy**: Hosts’ past abortions; Christians’ hypocrisy, pastors’ silence.
Insights and Takeaways
No exceptions for rape/incest; all unborn are persons made in God’s image, equal regardless of conception.
Abortion stats declining due to leaders like DeSantis, but ~50k/year remains a “massacre”; chemical abortions decentralize killing, causing trauma and pollution.
Criminalizing abortion deters it (pre-Roe behavior); focus on support via pregnancy centers, not persecution; courtrooms ensure justice without bias.
Abortion is a “spider web” of greed (pharma, organs), evil (child sacrifice to Moloch), and cover-ups; desensitization ends via ultrasounds, abortion videos, graphic truth.
Churches filled with post-abortive women/advocates; need youth, African-American involvement; unity in Central FL sidewalk counseling saves lives.
Women know it’s a baby (70%+ aware, repeat offenders, often Christians); mandate informed consent to expose reality.
Conclusions and Decisions
Dedicate show to Stephen Thin Holland; prioritize donations/prayers for his recovery and bills over radio funding this week.
Urge full criminalization, personhood restoration for equal protection; reject complacency at 6-week limits.
Promote May 12th banquet to celebrate 45 years, share saves (e.g., recent mother from All Women’s Center).
Call to action: Vote pro-life, sidewalk counsel, support ministries; expose abortion’s evil to change hearts, save lives via truth, adoption, and repentance. Show ends affirming pro-life mission.
[ 00:00:00,000 ]Pro-Life Radio is a pre-recorded program paid for by Pro-Life Radio. Preserving the sanctity of life in Florida. A loud voice for the unborn. This is Pro-Life Radio with your hosts, Vicky and Bruce Cherry. And welcome to another edition of Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. And across from me, my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry. I am Bruce Cherry. And we have a great guest with us, a friend of the show who is back. And going to share some stats with us. We have Michelle Hertzog, who is Director of Pro-Life Action Ministries of Central Florida. I did get that right. You got it right. Okay, good, good, good. I just want to make sure, because we just know her as Michelle. But, you know, we’re out on corners together, waving at cars.
[ 00:00:41,760 ]And having people honk their horns. And some people wave back with all fingers. Yes. And some don’t. Some only won. Some only won, but that’s okay. Or two on each hand. Jesus loves them and so do we. So there you go. All right, so we’ll get the show started. But of course, as always, we start off with Jeremiah 1-5 and prayer. Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I sanctified you. I ordained you a prophet to the nation. Heavenly Father, thank you for another opportunity to come together. To share the truth about life, about how none of us has a right to invalidate a life that you have ordained to live, regardless of how that life came to be.
[ 00:01:25,100 ]God, we ask that you open the hearts of our listeners, that you bless the homes. and hearts of all who are listening to this show and all who support this show. And for those who don’t agree, God, we just pray that you work on their hearts. and that we share something tonight. That will change their minds. God, we pray for every unborn child in this country and in this world that they may be protected. and grow too. maturity, and be born. And God, we pray for forgiveness for those who have… taken the lives of those children. of any of those children. And God, we ask for your blessings upon Michelle. and Pro-Life Action Ministries. And we ask for a special blessing tonight of healing for a very good friend of ours and a good friend of the show.
[ 00:02:11,470 ]who is having a medical issue. Stephen, then Holland. of Broken, but not dead. that ministry. And God, we just pray that you. You bless him and his ministry and his family. with healing. And God, we thank you, and we ask all of this in the name of your precious Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.你們 Amen. So, Michelle, welcome back. I am so happy to be back. And thank you for being here. Yeah, thank you. And just real quick, we’ll jump on, because I brought this up, so I want to touch on it. Stephen, then Holland, who’s been on the show. Stephen, then many of you may remember his mother. was mentally challenged and was put in an institution. At a young age, I think she was 13.
[ 00:03:00,070 ]was raped and became pregnant with Stephen then. Gang raped. Yeah. Like by five. But, yeah. And, and. The institution wanted to hush it up and make her have an abortion. And she said, no, she knew better. And she wound up running away from the institution, pregnant with him. And living on the street. And a family took her in. And she gave birth to Stephen then. And then he was adopted by this, I believe it was by the family that took her in or another family. He was adopted some kind of way. And eventually he grew up and found out the story of what had happened, and he had the opportunity to meet. and develop a relationship with his mother, even though she was still… And I want to add why he has that name.
[ 00:03:47,570 ]Oh, yeah. Well, we’ll get to it. We’ll get to it. But she was still, I mean, when he met her, she was. you know, 13 years older than him, obviously a grown woman, but she still had the mental capacity of a tenor. 12-year-old child. But he developed a relationship with her, and by then he had kids, and they developed a relationship with her. Before she passed. But Stephen then, just to cut to the chase, he suffered a heart attack this past week. And Michelle, he was scheduled to be your speaker. Yes, yeah. At your gala. Yeah. As a matter of fact, on Monday, we were getting ready to send out the invitations online and then are printed. And right before I clicked the button to send them out.
[ 00:04:32,040 ]I got a call that he had had the heart attack. So our hearts and our prayers go with Stephen Thin. He’s an amazing man. He is. Just a little bit of time. And I met him here at Pro-Life Radio. We were both on the show together. And it was on that day that I asked him if he would consider doing our banquet. And he said yes. And so we have been looking so forward to him coming. And so obviously… We’re really upset that he can’t come, but we’re more upset with what happened to him and our prayers are with him. So ask everybody listening to please pray for him. Absolutely. And his family. Yeah. And his finances, because he does not have insurance. And so that is a big…
[ 00:05:16,690 ]A big John. He’s in the fight. He travels the country speaking. At events like Michelle’s and doing interviews like ours and fighting to protect the unborn, because he very easily could have become a statistic of abortion. And so he’s a great guy, but he’s worried now, because and I had the opportunity to speak with him earlier today on the phone. And he’s weak. But he’s recovering. Thank God. But he’s worried about the fact he doesn’t have health insurance. And I don’t know if you’ve been sick lately or had to go to the hospital. It ain’t cheap. Well, even with health insurance. Yeah, exactly. So I told him, I said, look. We’re praying for you. You’re in the fight. God’s people are praying for you. Don’t you worry about anything.
[ 00:06:05,900 ]You worry about getting well. And don’t worry about it. Just accept the healing that God’s bringing your way. And get back out there because we need you out there. So we’re going to dedicate this show to him tonight, and we’re going to ask that. You get your checkbook out. And make a donation. And we’ll tell you the, the address and where to, to donate here coming up in a bit. But I know you wanted to share the story about how he got his name. Yes. So Bruce shared earlier that. His mother was a little challenged, and so… It wasn’t really, I guess, her that made the mistake, but the people asked her, well, what do you want to name him? And she says, well.
[ 00:06:45,600 ]I want to name him Stephen after a relative, I think it was. And she said then. And they thought she was saying Stephen then, but she was saying Stephen and then another person. And so they put Stephen then on his birth certificate. So his name is Stephen then. And it’s S-T-E-V-E-N-T-H-E-N. Just like Stephen then. Stephen then. So the first I met Stephen then at… The Care Net Conference last year. How often do you think he gets? What was your name? I can tell you, I said that because I was writing it. Say that again? How do you spell that? And he told me the story then. But he’s a great guy, and God bless him and his family. I was able to have a brief conversation with his wife, Rachel, today as well.
[ 00:07:37,840 ]So we want to take care of them, we’re asking you and we ask for donations to keep the show on the air this week. I’m going to ask you to to make a little to make a little extra effort to throw whatever you can— a few dollars— his way. There’s a GoFundMe page. There’s some out there that don’t like to use GoFundMe. That’s okay. I’ve got the address here for his ministry. Broken, not dead. And it is P. O. Get your pen out. And we’ll give this a few times during the show. P. O. Box 2561. Muscle Shoals, Alabama. 35662. Okay. And I just want to add, you know, with Stephen Thin, it’s his testimony is so important. Because for so long, even in the pro-life movement, we’ve made exceptions. Absolutely.
[ 00:08:31,070 ]For rape, or those conceived in incest. So, inadvertently, we’ve judged them unworthy to live. And his testimony, you know, when you listen to it here, he was, his mother was gang raped. But even though she was mentally challenged, she fought so hard for that baby. But normally… Abortion advocates would say, well, she can’t have that abortion, you know? And even, like I said, even in the pro-life movement, we… We seem to be able to overlook the humanity. Of that child that was conceived in rape. But really, those of us that truly believe that abortion is murder. Have to believe that there’s no difference between the child conceived and raped. Or the child conceived in great love. There’s no difference. We are human beings created in the image of God.
[ 00:09:26,700 ]It does not depend upon… our conception. So his testimony is so relevant and so important for today. It is. You see a lot of people that say, ‘Oh, I’m against abortion.’ Well, in the case of rape or incest. Right. And it’s like. Okay, so you’re saying that, like you said, that child is irrelevant? Mm-hmm. We don’t have a right to make that decision. Right. We don’t. Right. When you think about Cheryl Hadley, who’s been on the show. Yes. She was in rape and incest. Two big exceptions that people want to use. She’s been a pastor’s wife for 50 years and has led many people to Christ and also just influenced their lives in such a good way. Strong faith, yes.
[ 00:10:18,160 ]And to think she wouldn’t be here right because even the police officers tried to talk her mom into aborting her because she was only 13 years old. And Rebecca Kiesling, she was one of our, I don’t know if you all are familiar with Rebecca Kiesling. She’s an attorney. She was also conceived in rape. She was one of our guest speakers at one of our banquets. And her testimony is just phenomenal. And God has used her in the courtroom. I mean, conceived in rape, somebody that should have been aborted— by the standards, but she survived. And now God is using her in a tremendous way in many different areas, many different areas. I know you had a lady on, I can’t remember her name, but I’m sure you do.
[ 00:11:03,230 ]That spoke at one of your banquets also at the church a couple years back. Gianna Jensen. Yes. Her testimony is so powerful. They tried to abort her, and she survived the abortion. She survived the abortion, but is— I don’t want to say— disfigured, but she has cerebral palsy. And, and. It’s just, well, I would like to, I don’t want to, I don’t want to say, I would like to say, but I believe it is, it is impacted her life negatively. Because she so wants… To get married and to have children. And those things don’t seem to be on the horizon for her. And that cerebral palsy was caused by the abortion. That was the second trimester abortion. Wow. And no one thinks that. You can get cerebral palsy from an abortion.
[ 00:11:50,010 ]Right. There’s so many things. Right. So we’re up against a break. We’re going to come right back. There’s some new stats on abortion. The numbers are going down. But are they real? We’ll be right back. More Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night on AM 950, FM 94. 9. The answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900.
[ 00:12:33,660 ]Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you. And welcome back to Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday evening. I’m Vicky Cherry. Across from me is my handsome husband, Bruce. Hello. That sounded kind of crazy. It did, didn’t it? I’m sorry. Hello. Thank you. There we go. We have Michelle Herzog from Pro-Life Action Ministry, Central Florida. And she has been a friend of Pro-Life Radio for many years now. I think we’re in our third year. And I think you two knew each other before. Yes. We met each other on the sidewalk. Yes, we did. And that one needs to go. That Maitland one needs to go. Amen. I’ll second that. They’re talking about the Maitland Abortuary. That is just down from the Seventh-day Adventist Church there in Altamont Springs on Maitland Avenue.
[ 00:13:29,670 ]Mm-hmm. Which is really cool that it shares a driveway with a life center. Yes. Right there. So when they’re leaving after taking the pill, there’s big signs that say. You can change this. And that’s awesome for people to know. We’ve had a lady on that was the third. She was one of the first five women in America or maybe the world to take the abortion reversal pill. It was great. It was a great interview. But anyway, so we were talking during the break that we have some stats, that Michelle has some stats. And could you share those with our listeners? Well, yeah. I mean, the abortion stats for Florida for the year of 2025 came out. And yes, they are lower than they were the year before in 2024.
[ 00:14:20,860 ]In 2024, they were over 60,000 abortions. 2023, they were over 80,000 abortions. For 2025, there are 48,175 abortions. So yes, they went down. But in the whole scheme of things, almost 50,000. babies slaughtered on the altar of choice in the state of Florida. That’s 178 babies a day that are killed in the state of Florida. And we still have abortion mills strewn across the state. And, of course, our main focus is central Florida. And so those of us that minister here, we’re able to see. especially the all women, I mean, they’re packed every, you know, Tuesday through Saturday. It is like, you know, it’s like a factory going in and out, in and out, in and out. And that’s the abortion clinic on the island.
[ 00:15:19,480 ]That’s the one in, yes, Altamont Springs, actually. And now they only do the chemical abortions. Oh. Bye. The abortion industry, that’s where they want to go. Oh, yeah. Is no overhead. It’s so low overhead. They were having trouble finding doctors and nurses to work in the abortuaries. And so. What’s happened is with the pill, they just have to have one doctor on staff to prescribe the pill. Mm-hmm. And. I don’t think they even have to have nurses for that. They just have a tech just described to the woman. Because they’re going to lie to them. Oh, you’re going to feel a little cramping, maybe some light bleeding, like your cycle, and you’ll be able to go to work within a day or so. Don’t worry about a thing.
[ 00:16:03,300 ]They don’t tell them that they’re going to pass. Mm-hmm. Their child. on their bathroom floor or worse. in the bathroom toilet. Mm-hmm. But that’s what’s going to happen. Right, right. Now, Florida. I mean, we used to be a Democrat state. Mm-hmm. And so we have come a long way. You know, people just look at us now and they just see the free state of Florida. We’ve not always been like this. So I do believe that we need to give credit where credit is due. I mean, I can remember when we had a state representative that was an abortionist and sat on the head of the health care committee, making all the rules and laws of the state of Florida. That was back in the early 90s.
[ 00:16:44,720 ]And so, of course, we had abortions up to six months. Thank you. Go ahead and give credit where credit’s due. Who was that? That was Ben Graber. Ben Graver. State Representative Ben Graber. In Broward County. Is she still in? I mean, he’s still there. Obviously, he’s not a state representative any longer. But, I mean, he was a state representative for a good amount of time. And like I said, he sat at the head of the health care committee. So we are a lot different than we were. We have come a long way. So that’s why I’m saying I think we do need to give credit where credit is due. I do think that Governor DeSantis has done a wonderful job. Yes, he has. I really do.
[ 00:17:25,079 ]I mean, I think he has fought for many different things. Um, and we have gone from six months in the womb to 15 to now six weeks. But I want to say that we cannot be complacent and be okay with it being at six weeks. Number one, there’s no oversight. So we really don’t know if they’re going, there’s absolutely no oversight. And there’s still 50,000 babies being killed. Hmm, mm-hmm. Even though it’s lower and we still have a lot of abortion centers. So we still do have a massacre of the innocent in the state of Florida. And so I don’t think that we can settle for this. And we still do not recognize them as persons in the state of Florida. When I do believe we could, I do believe our state constitution.
[ 00:18:15,790 ]Gives us every right to recognize the unborn as persons. Well, there is a bill before the Florida House right now about recognizing the unborn as humans, and it’s that they have human rights and things like that. But it is geared more towards… If a drunk driver. Right. Kills, uh, a mother and her unborn baby, the family has the right to go after the drunk driver for damages for both the mother and the baby, not just the mother. Okay, so what are they going to do if they were going to have an abortion? They’ll make an exclusion for that. Yeah, they’re making it. The law is very specific. Who’s going to say, though, if you think you can get money out of them? The law is very specifically written to avoid that because…
[ 00:19:01,100 ]What’s Tallahassee full of? Politicians. What are politicians good at? Dodging difficult. Questions? and challenges and They work really hard to get re-elected. Mm-hmm. And that’s why the pro-life community. has to stand up, be heard, and let their voice be heard through their voting. Yeah, and we can’t just… We just can’t sugarcoat abortion. We can’t wrap it in a pretty package. There’s no way you can make abortion pretty. And so I believe that the. The days are over where we try to wrap abortion up and make it look pretty. We can’t. We have to be honest and truthful on what it is. And now we’ve entered, especially with the abortion pill, chemical abortion, we’ve entered into a new land because it was always the abortionists that killed. The babies. Always.
[ 00:19:58,300 ]And then. They took the remains of the children, and maybe a stair-a-cycle truck would come and pick the babies up, or they’d use a high-powered garbage disposal. And now what’s happening? The woman takes the first pill. She is the one. She’s the one popping the pill. At the abortion center. Then she goes home. She is the one popping the other pill. Nobody else is doing it. Nobody is forcing her to do it. And then there’s nobody scooping the remains of the babies away. No, she is delivering the remains of her child. In either the The toilet? or throwing that baby in the garbage, or maybe burying the baby in the backyard. So we really are entering into a new land, and I fear that we are going to be seeing a lot of mental crisis in women.
[ 00:20:52,920 ]I think so, too. And we were talking earlier about that. Making abortion illegal. Mm-hmm. And who would be held accountable. And. I know you had said, well, tell the listeners what you were saying about how we need to put that on a bill as far as. Well, I mean, Let’s face it, January 22nd, 1973, and we’ve talked about this on the show before, the unborn had their rights stripped from them. They were… totally protected human beings. Mm-hmm. personhood, protection, and rights. And on that day… Because of a Supreme Court decision, they had all their rights stripped away from them. And for 53 years, 53 years, we have slaughtered the youngest in our nation unmercifully. Unmercifully. We say abortion is murder. But do we really act like abortion is murder?
[ 00:21:53,970 ]And so, you know, my whole, my whole, what I try to work towards is restoring the rights of the unborn. I want to see their rights restored. I want to see them declared persons. And when that happens, they are the same as you and me. And if anybody tries to harm any of these little children who have the same rights as you and I, that are our persons. There should be no differentiation in the punishment at all. No matter who tries to harm the child. Prescriber of the pill or the dad or the mom. As I mentioned before, the show, I think that. I can see both sides of the argument to a certain degree, but here’s the thing. I. I worked in marketing.
[ 00:22:42,680 ]I’ve done marketing all of my adult life, either on air or behind the scenes. And what has happened is that they’ve wrapped the argument up in this neat little package of saying, ‘Oh, you’re persecuting women. You’re going to persecute women. You’re going to throw them in jail. What if they were raped? What if they were this? And it’s like. You stop looking at all the peripheral stuff and look at the issue. Protecting the life of an unborn child. It’s not persecuting the women. It’s not persecuting the doctors. It’s not persecuting. The men involved in it, it’s protecting the life of the unborn child. They want to make it seem like. Oh, you’re persecuting poor women. And you want to throw them in prison. No. Because if it’s illegal, they’re probably not going to have the abortion.
[ 00:23:36,760 ]Especially if all of these pregnancy centers that we have now shift their model, which many of them already have, they’ve been doing it for a long time, to supporting… the mother of the unborn child in every way possible up until and after the child is born. That’s what the focus needs to be. If we’re going to ask these women not to abort their children, and they’re there because they’re desperate, because they’re alone, or because they don’t think they can afford to have a child, or they don’t know how to raise a child, then we have to bring those services to light for them so they know there is an option. And I think that is happening, but, like Michelle was saying earlier, it’s about their personhood. That is the argument.
[ 00:24:19,820 ]Are they people? Right. Or are they not? Do we believe that the unborn are persons? And once we have that prayer answered, where once again, they have the same rights as you and I, what are we just going to ignore if somebody tries to kill them just because it might be a woman? And it’s not about persecuting a woman. It’s about equal justice, equal justice. Okay. We’re up against another break. Man, this is great radio. I love this. We’ll be right back with more Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to GiveSendGo. com slash OrlandoProLifeRadio or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900 County Road 455, Unit 107-334, Claremont, Florida 34711. Pro-Life Radio is a non-profit entity and all donations are tax-deductible. Thank you.
[ 00:25:32,570 ]And we’re back on Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night. And for those of you who don’t know already, you can listen to us on the stream on theanswerorlando. com. And we thank Michelle Herzog for being here from Pro-Life Action Ministries. Across from me, my lovely wife, Vicky Cherry. And I’m Bruce Cherry. And we are just really kind of going at it about protecting the unborn tonight. And I pray that someone out there who may have a decision. To make the right decision, that they make the right decision, that we share something tonight that makes them know for certain they’re making the right decision to save a life. That child to raise, that child and if you, if you cannot raise that child, there are adoption centers, there are adoption opportunities, there are people out there who would give that child an incredible life, an incredible home.
[ 00:26:25,600 ]So Michelle, you were talking about. Um, Him— Yes. And if the baby is a human or if it is not a human. When they have their rights restored. Even if it’s a right. Equal justice. Right before, well, during break, you started to talk about. Courtrooms and what are courtrooms for? So, if we put us— if we put— don’t drive in, Drink. And somebody does. They go to trial and it’s decided if they were guilty or not. Right. And who, if it wasn’t them, was guilty? And we go from there. So explain what you’re doing. I mean, I was just kind of bouncing off what your husband was talking about. I mean, this is not about persecuting women. And if it comes down to that point, and let’s just say, Again, when the unborn have their personhood restored and they’re declared persons.
[ 00:27:14,910 ]it would be illegal to kill them. At that point, there’d be no right to kill him. There’d be no right to privacy of abortion. There’d be no right to kill. And let’s just say an abortionist, or the woman. Or whoever, let’s just say a boyfriend. Gives the chemical abortion, spiked a drink or whatever. That person gets charged, and that’s what courtrooms are for. Just go and find out if you’re guilty or not guilty. And so I think, of course, abortion advocates are going to. They’re going to take. Thank you. What we want to do, and that is to restore the personhood of the child, but they’re going to turn that into, but you want to persecute women. You want to persecute women. No, we want equal justice.
[ 00:27:58,250 ]Justice for the youngest in our nation who have for 53 years not had justice, and they have been walked over, trampled over. You know, our land is strewn with the blood of the innocent. Our sewage systems, it’s unbelievable. I mean, how much longer can God withhold his judgment? You know, we had John. Stimberger on the show. Back. Mid-Mid last year, um, because John has written a book called ‘Abortion in Our Water’ yeah, and it is shocking. Yes. Because of the pill. There are hormones in our water that we can’t get out. Yep. There are. There’s DNA in there that we can’t get out from aborted babies being flushed down the toilet and the afterbirth and things being flushed down. And I apologize for getting graphic, but the book covers all of that.
[ 00:28:51,000 ]Now, the company that I work for, New Revolution, has sent copies of that book to… various members of government. Both here in Florida and in the United States. In fact, Donald Trump has a copy of the book. And Trump has taken a great deal of interest in it. Who knew? And it’s true. I mean, you never really thought about it until it was brought to light. And it’s something that The Environmental Protection Agency was like, ‘Oh, they knew about it because it was brought up to them a long time ago.’ And they’re like, ‘Oh, well, that’s not something weird. We want to deal with.’ Well, the birth control pills, I mean, look at all the people who cannot have children. Hmm-hmm. Men, so many men are sterile.
[ 00:29:34,980 ]I mean, what? You have to have your head in the sand to not think that something is going on. And now with the number of chemical abortions going on, and there are people who work in the sewage system who are seeing the remains of these babies. Can you imagine being on your job? And then seeing them small. Hmm-hmm. But they’re seeing the remains. I mean, they see a head and a legs. Yeah, they have hands and feet. They have to live with that. So it really is a massacre of the innocents right now. And I don’t think we can be too graphic enough. No, I don’t think so. And I do believe that we need, I mean, it’s almost like we’ve gotten totally desensitized to abortion. Well, you can’t see it.
[ 00:30:20,600 ]And that’s what. Slavery, how it came to end. People had to see it. They were shown pictures of it. Yes. This is what slavery does. This is a human being. Who you don’t have the right to harm. Right. And you’re doing this to it. And like you said. Pregnancy is hidden. Yes, you can see the belly bump. But you don’t see, now, ultrasounds you do, but. That’s just not showing it enough. People aren’t seeing the true. You know, and John Michener, who wrote a book and has been on the show several times, he says, ‘Ask people.’ Explain to me what an abortion is. Right. Explain it to me. I really, truly think that anyone who is thinking about having an abortion.
[ 00:31:03,590 ]that if they’re going to go into an abortuary, whether it’s one that does the surgical abortions or the pill, they should have to see two things. first. See an ultrasound. second they should have to watch a video. of an abortion. No way around it. That if you’re not going to criminalize. abortion. then you should at least… Make sure that the women who go in there and the men are fully aware of what’s going to happen. And all the aftermath. Yeah. You know, the depression, the alcoholism, the suicide. The high cancer rates. The jump in breast cancer, ovarian cancer, and uterine cancer. Directly correlates with the increase in abortion in this country. But the attitude of women now, I mean, it’s so different from when I first started in the late 80s.
[ 00:31:57,500 ]We’re talking about. The women now coming to the abortion centers are very cold. And very hard. And the percentage of them have had multiple abortions already. I mean, and it’s like, you know, I know it’s a baby. I know what I’m doing. And don’t try to stop me. See, and that’s somebody had, and I don’t. I wouldn’t name names even if I do. But had tried to say that 70% of the women are unaware. Oh, that’s absolutely not true. And I’m like, that is not so. No. I mean, I would say. 70% plus know what they’re doing. Absolutely. Exactly know what they’re doing. Absolutely. And most of them claim to be Christians. And go to church. And God will forgive me. And God will forgive me.
[ 00:32:39,720 ]There’s also a large number of women that are the influencers and socialites. And well-known figures. There’s a movement going on where they’re comparing how many abortions they’ve had. They’re using it like birth control, and they’re bragging about it. And laughing about it and making light of it. It’s really hard for me to be on that fence of making it illegal, and what’s going to happen to the women. I do have compassion. I’m a woman. I know what it’s like to have children. I’ve had a miscarriage. I’ve not had an abortion, but I know a lot of people that have. But I also want abortion stopped. In my mind, I think, okay. What will stop it the fastest? What will save the most lives? Because they are lives. They’re human beings.
[ 00:33:28,780 ]And the most unprotected and innocent. Making it illegal. Make it illegal? Make it show that pharma. Big Pharma cannot profit from it. Mm-hmm. And shut the doors forever on Planned Parenthood. But see, you see, it’s so ugly, and it’s so deep-rooted, and there’s so many little webs. It’s like a spider web. I mean, you’ve got organ harvesting. Oh, yeah. Vaccines. I mean… Medications. Medications. That’s why I said make sure that big pharma cannot profit from it. And they will not. That’s why there’s still late-term abortion centers in… Albuquerque, New Mexico, Denver, Maryland, California. And now New York is even talking about 28 days after birth. And this is because they use the organs. And that’s why you’ll see they’re going to fight tooth and nail for those late-term abortions.
[ 00:34:29,840 ]And so that’s why I say it’s like a spider web. If anybody ever really thought this was about the women, they are absolutely, it has nothing to do with the women. Abortion has never been safe. It is a Big. Big. industry. That is used for most of the medical products that people take. And that’s why we have autoimmune issues. Like in the vaccines, you’ve got, you know, the fetal remains and that every baby has DNA. And once you inject that into your system, that DNA will always be at a war with your DNA. And that’s why our autoimmune issues have skyrocketed. And it is huge money for pharma. Big, big, big money. I’m talking everything. That’s like the transitioning stuff. You start to transition a child. You’ve got to. Thank you.
[ 00:35:30,190 ]Patient for life. Yeah. Because even if they want to detransition, they’re going to have to be on drugs. Right. And then you’ve got your politicians. Mm-hmm. That Let’s just face it, they have affairs with women. And, um, abortions, pastors, pastor. Yeah. Pastor. Why do you think pastors don’t talk about it? And abortion is the convenient thing to get rid of evidence, evidence. So you hit the nail on the head when you said it’s a spider web. Yes. It is because abortion exists for several reasons. I think the primary reason is honestly. Evil. Satan wants to sacrifice the blood of innocent children to pagan gods. Well, Bruce, when you said that, I was talking to a kid at work, one of our staff, and he said, ‘He was talking to somebody and they were talking about witchcraft.
[ 00:36:24,009 ]And he said, ‘What do you think is the biggest? Um. worst witchcraft. You know what he put first? Abortion. Abortion. Child sacrifice. People do not think of it as a witchcraft, as evil, as the lowest of low. We’re killing an innocent child. It is modern day. Moloch. Bail. It really is no different. Satan. loves the blood of the innocent children.’ And I mean, we all know about other different things that little babies, the blood is used for. Abortion is also big at hiding sin. Yeah. Because like you said, pastors, politicians, people who’ve had affairs, women who’ve had affairs while their husband was overseas serving in the military, things like that. What was that statistic? The one lady said 70% of the abortions at their clinic were because of women wanting to hide affairs.
[ 00:37:20,350 ]Yeah. Married women. And isn’t it interesting? Like, let’s go back to rape. Mm-hmm. or incest, they want to hurry up and get that girl to the abortion center because that evidence, that baby is the evidence and that baby is destroyed. So there’s no evidence. We’ve got another break. We’ll be right back with our final segment of the night. It’s Pro-Life Radio on a Sunday night, AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. Orlando Pro-Life Radio, or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc., and mail it to 13900 County Road.
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[ 00:38:24,280 ]And we’re back on a Sunday night Pro-Life Radio and just really interesting. And it’s hot in this studio, isn’t it? Yes, it is. We’ve covered the gambit tonight. That we know abortion’s evil. We know it. We know it in our hearts. We know it. We know that it exists for several reasons. Greed. To hide sin. To hide a crime, which is the same as hiding sin. And I said greed, so Big Pharma, the money. And. Something you brought up, the body parts. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So. Hey, you have a huge event coming up. We do. It’s our once-a-year annual. Life Banquet. And Pro-Life Action Ministries actually is celebrating their 45th year of being on the sidewalk in front of these abortuaries day after day, year after year, week after week, being a voice for the voiceless and trying to rescue those being led to the slaughter.
[ 00:39:21,130 ]And so we’ve seen thousands of little children saved. And so I’m really thankful for this ministry. Brian Gibson, our executive director, I mean, he goes all the way. He’s a great guy. Oh, he is, isn’t he? You know, goes all the way back in the 70s. I mean, he was fighting abortion before it became legal, warning people and everything. I really thank God for this ministry, and so many lives have been touched. Mothers, fathers, babies are alive today because of the sidewalk counselors, the prayer supporters, and just the different events. And then, of course, they started. The Central Florida branch down here, which I’m really thankful for. A woman named Judy Mattson Johnson called Pro-Life Action Ministries in St. Paul. And said, ‘Could we start something down here?’ And so praise the Lord.
[ 00:40:08,840 ]And I am so thankful for all the sidewalk counselors in this area. We have a very united front here. I don’t know if you guys have noticed. I mean, that really works together. For the sake of the babes. And I just love that because I know that not everywhere is like that. So I love our Central Florida group here. You know, I have to be honest, what I would love to see. If we could get some younger blood, that would be great. In there, because I’m seeing people our age and older. And I know there are. Teens out there—oh, yeah, yeah— and I know there are, you know, college-age kids out there. I think they’re starting to come. Oh, yeah. Starting, but I’d like to see more. Yeah.
[ 00:40:52,560 ]And I would like to see more members of the African-American community because I look around and there’s myself and… Willie. Willie. Well, Willie. Winnie. Winnie. Victorious Living Fellowship. Yes. Pastor Victor Morgan has been very, very, very supportive. And Nancy Randolph. That’s still just a handful. And honestly, abortion, and this is not a race issue, but then again it is, because Planned Parenthood was devised to cull the black population of this country. And my reason for wanting to see more African-American… people out there is that they come to know and understand that evil that abortion is, was targeted directly towards us. It was. Right. And it still is. Right, and if… if anybody could watch MAFA 21, I mean, that is the history behind abortion. About Margaret Sanger.
[ 00:41:48,800 ]I mean, she considered black Americans weeds that needed to be exterminated. She made no bones about it. I mean, she, I mean. Oh, her and Hitler were. They were buddies. Well, Hitler called her for help. Yeah. And so she, I mean, the woman was absolutely about demonic. I mean, a demonically possessed woman spoke at KKK rallies. She hated black Americans. And so all of her birth control clinics, where were they? In minority neighborhoods. And still to this day, the percentage of Planned Parenthood services are in minority neighborhoods. And in New York now, what is it, 50%? of black babies are killed by abortion. So we’re talking half. I mean, so her goal is being accomplished. And so it is something. But, yeah, MAFA 21 is just a fantastic video.
[ 00:42:39,560 ]I don’t know if you all have watched that. I haven’t seen that. We’ve seen the 1916 project. Oh, no, MAFA 21. How do you spell that? M-A-A-F-A 21. I mean, it is. It’s a good, maybe a couple hours long. So tell us, when is your big… So our banquet is May 12th. Okay. And so we’ll just… Yeah, we’ll be sharing all the different things that have happened this year. As a matter of fact, we just took out a mother. Out to lunch the other day. Who had come to the All Women’s Center for an abortion in July. And just a few weeks ago, I got a text, and it was a picture of the baby. I think what would be great is to have somebody, maybe her or someone like her, to come on the show.
[ 00:43:25,440 ]Yeah. You know, and talk about what happened, their feelings. Their experience and why they, I mean, because we’ve. You know what, KK, that’s I I’m going to see if she she will definitely would love to do that. She her and her husband went to Planned Parenthood for an abortion. And we were all that was in Kissimmee. We were all out there, and they ended up keeping the baby, and I am great friends with them now. Oh, fantastic. We still go out to lunch, dinner, whatever. Oh, yeah. Wow. Beautiful family. Beautiful family. You know, and I think. Sometimes people just think in their head. We’ll just have a baby later. Well, no, you won’t have that baby. This was their fifth baby. Mmm. I’m sorry, that was their fifth baby.
[ 00:44:06,870 ]I got too far away. She was leaning over like she was sharing a secret or something. And they were afraid. And they were Christians. And see, that’s the problem. A lot of Christians… First of all, we’re all human. We’re all broken vessels. And the reason— God sent Jesus Christ was to die for our sins. Our sins. are washed away. In the blood. Mm-hmm. And so. We ask for forgiveness. We accept the forgiveness. We have to renounce that sin. But you’ve got people that are Christians professing to be Christians, and they’ll fall into sin. Anybody can. Yeah. And instead of confessing that sin and repenting, they decide to double down. Yeah. And let’s, oh— we can’t go to the shame. Hide it. You can’t have the shame of having laid together and we’re not married.
[ 00:44:57,090 ]I mean, nowadays, that’s not… Sadly, nowadays, we’re a society that doesn’t know shame. But yet still, people want to hide that sin. Kill a child and I look at it this way because I was there. I’ve done it twice. Okay, I was there. What kind of coward was I to make an unborn child pay for my sin and my cowardness? And my shame. And then, of course, you know me. I had multiple abortions before I became a Christian. And so, just between the two of us. There’s, you know, close to 10 children that were killed. And the thing with this is, you knew it was wrong. And probably neither one of you, if it would have been against the law, would have done it. Exactly.
[ 00:45:41,590 ]And when you mentioned that earlier, so I, you know, I graduated from high school in 1973. So I lived pre-Roe. And you guys did too. You live pre-Roe, so you know how it was. Women didn’t just jump into the sack as quickly as they do now. You thought twice about it, even though you and I experienced it. I’m just saying, as a majority of Americans, you. People now, they just don’t even care. They just do whatever. It’s just like, whatever. They don’t need, because they know they can go get an abortion. Like the sign on the eye for whatever. Happily whatever you’re after. Happily whatever you’re after. That’s so against the Bible. But those before abortion. Mm-hmm. So we were like, we had committed abortions after it was legal. Right.
[ 00:46:33,540 ]But those prior to abortion being decriminalized. Thought twice before just hopping into the sack. And so, yes, it makes a huge, huge difference. Anybody that, I don’t know, there should be nobody that, Christians, I’m talking Christians, should have no problem. With wanting to see abortion ended and the rights of the children restored, there just is no excuse in my mind for it whatsoever. And the sad thing is the churches are filled— with people in those churches that either have had an abortion. Yes. or have taken someone to have an abortion. or are thinking about having an abortion. But what’s really sad is there’s pastors in those churches saying there’s nothing wrong with it. Yeah. You saw it was two years ago when we were in the battle to defeat Amendment 4.
[ 00:47:27,740 ]There was a gathering down in downtown Orlando at the Lake Eola Amphitheater. Oh, Shaw was there. We were there. That rally that was going on, and you guys were down there to… Give the counterpoint to protect life. Yes. And there were busloads of people who showed up from churches. Yes. With pastors that were there to fight for the quote unquote rights of women to make their own decisions on their own bodies. Right. Which is fine and great, but that’s not their body. Right. Their own little person. Right. But those same people, those same people that, you know, keep your hands off my body. Were the same ones that were lining up against those who did not want to be vaccinated during COVID. Because they know you’ve got to get the vaccine.
[ 00:48:16,990 ]You have to get the vaccine. So don’t get me started. Don’t get me started on that. And they’re the same ones who will fight for the rights of men to invade women’s bathrooms and locker rooms or be on women’s sports, which can harm young women. And how is that? Yeah. How is that helping? And that’s actually a violation of the rights to privacy. That is all another show, Michelle. Yes, it is. We may have to get a second show each week. I don’t know. Hey, before we run out of time, we are just about out of time, but I want to remind everybody. Michelle never really said the day and the time. I did say, okay, I’ll say it again. May 12th. It’s a Tuesday evening. We would love for you to join us.
[ 00:48:55,920 ]You can call us at 40. 407-230-2557. And we will have dinner and we have a great crowd. And it’s like a homecoming almost, you know, it’s like a lot of people who know each other. Now, if they don’t remember, the number is 407. Do you have a website too? We do: Pro-Life Action Ministries. And then we also have a Facebook page, Pro-Life Action Ministries Central Florida. Okay. All right. So before we go away, I want to remind everybody, Stephen, then Holland, who is the founder of Broken Not Dead Ministry. He’s a pro-life warrior. He’s a great friend of the show. He’s been on the show. And he was scheduled to speak at the Pro-Life Action Ministries Gala coming up on May 12th. OK, but he suffered a heart attack this week.
[ 00:49:45,240 ]Now he is at home, praise God, recovering. But now he’s worried about being able to pay his medical bills because he makes his living going around speaking at these at these events and from donations. He’s he doesn’t make a lot of money. He’s not a wealthy man. And he’s just in service to God’s kingdom here on earth and to protecting the unborn. He could use your help. So I’m going to ask you to get your checkbook out. Write down this address. If you’d like to send a check, or if you’d like to, you can go to GoFundMe and look for ‘Broken Not Dead,’ Stephen Van Holland. But you can send a check to P. O. Box 2561, Muscle Shoals, Alabama 35662. That’s P. O. Box 2561, Muscle Shoals, Alabama 35662.
[ 00:50:36,799 ]And I’m not even going to ask you to donate money to Pro-Life Radio this week. You know our address. You can do both. You can do both. But we want Stephen then to not have to worry about paying his medical bills. We love him. We’re praying for him. And your prayers would be appreciated too for Stephen then. Michelle, thank you for being on the show. Oh, it was a real blessing. It always is. I love doing interviews with y’all. It’s great. Thank you. Thank you. And we love having you. And we look forward to having you back. We’ll have you back before your event. That would be great. Okay. That would be super. Thank you, Dave DeRica, for pulling duty. And we appreciate it. Thank you to my lovely wife, Vicky, for always keeping me on the straight and narrow. She does a good job. She does a good job. Hard to handle. Thank you all for listening tonight. We’ll see you next week. Radio. is brought to you on AM 950, FM 94. 9, The Answer. If you’re pro-life, like this show, and want to support this mission, please help with your donation today. Go online to givesendgo. com. or make your checkout to Mission Save America, Inc. and mail it to 13900 County Road.
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